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The idea that any piece of gear enables artist is one of the biggest lies we have been sold. True Artist will use any tool at their reach to do art. In terms of

The idea that any piece of gear enables artist is one of the biggest lies we have been sold. True Artist will use any tool at their reach to do art. In terms of music the level is so high already that is irrelevant. Sound is not music.

carlmr 3y ago
A DAW is near essential for making EDM. It's actually quite cheap compared to the instruments you need for other music styles. Sure you can make EDM with more limited means, but a DAW opens up basically everything.
- quijoteuniv 3y ago
  And many think that for art more options is better, however the greatest works were done with huge limitations. Beatles 4 track, Bladerunner no CGI to name 2.
- cruano 3y ago
  If by "everything" you mean better production quality, sure, but I doubt you'd do your best sound-design work laying down on your couch with your airpods. I think the only thing this enables is for you to "finish" your songs on the ipad itself, which is not the game changer the OP is saying it is.
jc_811 3y ago
Does a piano player relying on a piano not count as “gear enabling an artist”? If there’s no piano does that true artist start playing a napkin instead because it’s within their reach?
- quijoteuniv 3y ago
  You will be surprised when you find out how many amazing piano players have practice in a piece of wood/cardboard with the keys drawn/carved
  - mkaic 3y ago
    As a piano player I definitely depend on the existence of a piano for me to play. Better tools absolutely enable artists to make better things faster — Yo-Yo Ma can make a cheap cello sound amazing, but he can make an expensive cello sound even more amazing.
    - quijoteuniv 3y ago
      And he should get an amazing cello! But most people that buy gear they do not need it nor use it!
- cruano 3y ago
  I mean, the OP was clearly referring to music composition: > The divide from putting down an idea when it hits, to working it into something, has always been really high. And in terms of music composition, you can probably get away with just humming out the tune and leave the rest for the producer to figure out.
- raincole 3y ago
  If they relies on a piano of a very specific brand, and can't play a cheap alternative at all, then yes. But I don't think most pianists are like that.
singingfish 3y ago
Saxophone player of adequate standard here ... yeah the gear shouldn't matter and you can get good stuff out of garbage with the right pre-existing skills and attitude. But on the other hand I've upgraded my two main instruments recently-ish from low/mid range instruments to high end, and in both cases my playing improved a lot instantly, as suddenly I didn't have to work so hard to get the instruments to cooperate[1]. However having to work around the limitations of my old instruments also improved my skills too. [1] having a good soprano sax that basically plays itself feels like cheating, but one of the reasons for that is having developed the skills to keep crappy sopranos cooperating reasonably well for so long too.
- quijoteuniv 3y ago
  Glad for you, is really nice to have a nice instrument, even inspiring, I play guitar many years and some guitars when you pick them up, they almost inspire/invite for music, while others they make you want to quit music altogether. So i am with you, i wish everyone could work themselves up to a nice instrument. I doubt an app in an ipad can have this meaning to someone.

carlmr 3y ago

A DAW is near essential for making EDM. It's actually quite cheap compared to the instruments you need for other music styles. Sure you can make EDM with more limited means, but a DAW opens up basically everything.

quijoteuniv 3y ago
And many think that for art more options is better, however the greatest works were done with huge limitations. Beatles 4 track, Bladerunner no CGI to name 2.
cruano 3y ago
If by "everything" you mean better production quality, sure, but I doubt you'd do your best sound-design work laying down on your couch with your airpods. I think the only thing this enables is for you to "finish" your songs on the ipad itself, which is not the game changer the OP is saying it is.

jc_811 3y ago

Does a piano player relying on a piano not count as “gear enabling an artist”? If there’s no piano does that true artist start playing a napkin instead because it’s within their reach?

quijoteuniv 3y ago
You will be surprised when you find out how many amazing piano players have practice in a piece of wood/cardboard with the keys drawn/carved
- mkaic 3y ago
  As a piano player I definitely depend on the existence of a piano for me to play. Better tools absolutely enable artists to make better things faster — Yo-Yo Ma can make a cheap cello sound amazing, but he can make an expensive cello sound even more amazing.
  - quijoteuniv 3y ago
    And he should get an amazing cello! But most people that buy gear they do not need it nor use it!
cruano 3y ago
I mean, the OP was clearly referring to music composition: > The divide from putting down an idea when it hits, to working it into something, has always been really high. And in terms of music composition, you can probably get away with just humming out the tune and leave the rest for the producer to figure out.
raincole 3y ago
If they relies on a piano of a very specific brand, and can't play a cheap alternative at all, then yes. But I don't think most pianists are like that.

singingfish 3y ago

Saxophone player of adequate standard here ... yeah the gear shouldn't matter and you can get good stuff out of garbage with the right pre-existing skills and attitude. But on the other hand I've upgraded my two main instruments recently-ish from low/mid range instruments to high end, and in both cases my playing improved a lot instantly, as suddenly I didn't have to work so hard to get the instruments to cooperate[1]. However having to work around the limitations of my old instruments also improved my skills too. [1] having a good soprano sax that basically plays itself feels like cheating, but one of the reasons for that is having developed the skills to keep crappy sopranos cooperating reasonably well for so long too.

quijoteuniv 3y ago
Glad for you, is really nice to have a nice instrument, even inspiring, I play guitar many years and some guitars when you pick them up, they almost inspire/invite for music, while others they make you want to quit music altogether. So i am with you, i wish everyone could work themselves up to a nice instrument. I doubt an app in an ipad can have this meaning to someone.