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What’s better in Nyxt than other browsers is you have a whole lisp runtime which is directly connected to the browser engine. Nyxt is trying to be the Emacs of

by slondr 3y ago

What’s better in Nyxt than other browsers is you have a whole lisp runtime which is directly connected to the browser engine. Nyxt is trying to be the Emacs of web browsers; all the theoretical and practical benefits of that model apply.

armitron 3y ago
It can never be the Emacs of web browsers because the browser engine is written in C/C++, not Lisp and therefore minimally extensible through a very restricted API that is not even controlled or influenced in any way by the Nyxt team. I guess they could fork an engine but good luck with that. Last I checked, it didn't even support uBlock origin. That alone makes it a no-go for me and I imagine most folks who visit HN.
- greggyb 3y ago
  The Emacs of text editors, Emacs itself, has a core written in C, not Lisp. The scotsmen are looking pretty sparse by your threshold (;
  - armitron 3y ago
    Except: - The Emacs team is in full control of both the C parts and the Lisp parts of Emacs. Exposing a C bit to Lisp, or introducing changes to the C core to benefit the Lisp parts, is frequently taking place. - What most people perceive as Emacs is implemented in Lisp and is extensible in Lisp. The C "core" is mostly the GC, low-level VM implementation and OS interface. Hardly bits and pieces that one would like to extend in Emacs Lisp.
- slondr 3y ago
  Nyxt is designed to be engine agnostic, which means it had a defined api you could plug any engine into, even one you theoretically write yourself. Obviously this is impractical, but I’ve seen criticisms that emacs doesn’t have that exact ability — see the project mage docs for a detailed explanation of one of those criticisms.
- lproven 3y ago
  > Last I checked, it didn't even support uBlock origin. That alone makes it a no-go for me and I imagine most folks who visit HN. Privoxy? Although I use both, myself: Privoxy and µBlock Origin.

by slondr 3y ago

armitron 3y ago

It can never be the Emacs of web browsers because the browser engine is written in C/C++, not Lisp and therefore minimally extensible through a very restricted API that is not even controlled or influenced in any way by the Nyxt team. I guess they could fork an engine but good luck with that. Last I checked, it didn't even support uBlock origin. That alone makes it a no-go for me and I imagine most folks who visit HN.

greggyb 3y ago
The Emacs of text editors, Emacs itself, has a core written in C, not Lisp. The scotsmen are looking pretty sparse by your threshold (;
- armitron 3y ago
  Except: - The Emacs team is in full control of both the C parts and the Lisp parts of Emacs. Exposing a C bit to Lisp, or introducing changes to the C core to benefit the Lisp parts, is frequently taking place. - What most people perceive as Emacs is implemented in Lisp and is extensible in Lisp. The C "core" is mostly the GC, low-level VM implementation and OS interface. Hardly bits and pieces that one would like to extend in Emacs Lisp.
slondr 3y ago
Nyxt is designed to be engine agnostic, which means it had a defined api you could plug any engine into, even one you theoretically write yourself. Obviously this is impractical, but I’ve seen criticisms that emacs doesn’t have that exact ability — see the project mage docs for a detailed explanation of one of those criticisms.
lproven 3y ago
> Last I checked, it didn't even support uBlock origin. That alone makes it a no-go for me and I imagine most folks who visit HN. Privoxy? Although I use both, myself: Privoxy and µBlock Origin.