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> opt in and has to be turned on You make it sound like one has to go out of their way to enable it. Pretty sure it’s one of several steps you click through w

> opt in and has to be turned on You make it sound like one has to go out of their way to enable it. Pretty sure it’s one of several steps you click through when you sign up for a Google account. And so most people will probably accept it. Add to that what the article is actually about. Google promised to remove visits to sensitive locations, but the visits were not removed.

vuln 3y ago
> Pretty sure it’s one of several steps you click through when you sign up for a Google account. And so most people will probably accept it. So google ASKS you to turn on location data during setup. It’s the consumer’s decision to turn it on and reap the _$benefits_ or keep it off and lose out on _$benefits_. Should there be a secondary and tertiary prompt warning of the exact data collected? Will users just mindlessly click through those too?
- codetrotter 3y ago
  No it should not ask at all during setup. You should have to manually go into settings and enable it there. That’s what real opt-in is. Not overwhelming the user with a bunch of questions during account setup.
- ivan_gammel 3y ago
  Is it that simple though? 99% of businesses do not share full context of the use of personal data in a way where user could understand all the unintended consequences of their choice. Does Google explicitly tell users when they opt-in to some feature that it may result in sensitive data eventually exposed?
BLKNSLVR 3y ago
It's definitely one of Google's dark(ish) patterns when setting up a new phone. The path of least resistance is the path of maximal data suck.
- 0cf8612b2e1e 3y ago
  I do not know if it is still true, but at one point if you did not enable location sharing, Google Maps would refuse to let you store previous searches/saved locations. Huge degradation in usability to get you to agree to sharing your data.
stef25 3y ago
> Google promised to remove visits to sensitive locations Define those locations

vuln 3y ago

> Pretty sure it’s one of several steps you click through when you sign up for a Google account. And so most people will probably accept it. So google ASKS you to turn on location data during setup. It’s the consumer’s decision to turn it on and reap the _$benefits_ or keep it off and lose out on _$benefits_. Should there be a secondary and tertiary prompt warning of the exact data collected? Will users just mindlessly click through those too?

codetrotter 3y ago
No it should not ask at all during setup. You should have to manually go into settings and enable it there. That’s what real opt-in is. Not overwhelming the user with a bunch of questions during account setup.
ivan_gammel 3y ago
Is it that simple though? 99% of businesses do not share full context of the use of personal data in a way where user could understand all the unintended consequences of their choice. Does Google explicitly tell users when they opt-in to some feature that it may result in sensitive data eventually exposed?

BLKNSLVR 3y ago

It's definitely one of Google's dark(ish) patterns when setting up a new phone. The path of least resistance is the path of maximal data suck.

0cf8612b2e1e 3y ago
I do not know if it is still true, but at one point if you did not enable location sharing, Google Maps would refuse to let you store previous searches/saved locations. Huge degradation in usability to get you to agree to sharing your data.

stef25 3y ago

> Google promised to remove visits to sensitive locations Define those locations