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DeepL gets every translation I try consistently better, at such a better rate that I don't even know why people use Google Translate anymore.

reaperman 3y ago
ChatGPT beats DeepL for me as well (especially GPT-4), although I like DeepL's UX better for now where it quickly shows you related words which helps me better understand the meaning. Very impressed with GPT-4 translation though -- especially the ability to steer it between "transliteration", "keep the meaning", "keep the tone", "use local idioms where appropriate", "explain different possible meanings/intentions", etc.
- capableweb 3y ago
  > ChatGPT beats DeepL for me as well I've tried it when I had the time to compare (DeepL vs GPT4), and find them to be pretty equal. But DeepL easily win on speed. 5 paragraphs would take just some seconds with DeepL and be almost 100% correct, while GPT4 would take almost a minute (sometimes more) while being about the same amount of correct. > Very impressed with GPT-4 translation though -- especially the ability to steer it between "transliteration", "keep the meaning", "keep the tone", "use local idioms where appropriate", "explain different possible meanings/intentions", etc. I've found that DeepL already does this well even thought it's not a LLM (as far as I know).
  - reaperman 3y ago
    > I've found that DeepL already does this well Yes. DeepL is very good! But with ChatGPT I can "tune" it more towards one way, whereas DeepL just only does whatever it does. DeepL has very very sensible defaults and the UI is great. But in fairness, DeepL basically will never just insert an appropriate idiom. Also GPT-3.5 is still worth comparing to DeepL as well.
imurray 3y ago
I've also found that DeepL's consistently better or equal when it applies for my personal usage. Some users will care that DeepL doesn't support as many languages, doesn't have TTS, and doesn't offer transliterations (such as pinyin for Chinese).
jwestbury 3y ago
I use Google Translate for convenience, but also for camera-based translation whilst traveling.
- zvr 3y ago
  DeepL has an Android app (at least) that supports camera-based translation.

reaperman 3y ago

ChatGPT beats DeepL for me as well (especially GPT-4), although I like DeepL's UX better for now where it quickly shows you related words which helps me better understand the meaning. Very impressed with GPT-4 translation though -- especially the ability to steer it between "transliteration", "keep the meaning", "keep the tone", "use local idioms where appropriate", "explain different possible meanings/intentions", etc.

capableweb 3y ago
> ChatGPT beats DeepL for me as well I've tried it when I had the time to compare (DeepL vs GPT4), and find them to be pretty equal. But DeepL easily win on speed. 5 paragraphs would take just some seconds with DeepL and be almost 100% correct, while GPT4 would take almost a minute (sometimes more) while being about the same amount of correct. > Very impressed with GPT-4 translation though -- especially the ability to steer it between "transliteration", "keep the meaning", "keep the tone", "use local idioms where appropriate", "explain different possible meanings/intentions", etc. I've found that DeepL already does this well even thought it's not a LLM (as far as I know).
- reaperman 3y ago
  > I've found that DeepL already does this well Yes. DeepL is very good! But with ChatGPT I can "tune" it more towards one way, whereas DeepL just only does whatever it does. DeepL has very very sensible defaults and the UI is great. But in fairness, DeepL basically will never just insert an appropriate idiom. Also GPT-3.5 is still worth comparing to DeepL as well.

imurray 3y ago

I've also found that DeepL's consistently better or equal when it applies for my personal usage. Some users will care that DeepL doesn't support as many languages, doesn't have TTS, and doesn't offer transliterations (such as pinyin for Chinese).

jwestbury 3y ago

I use Google Translate for convenience, but also for camera-based translation whilst traveling.

zvr 3y ago
DeepL has an Android app (at least) that supports camera-based translation.