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Google Translate “Get well [Swedish firstname]” translates to “fuck you”
- wheaties 3y agoWhy you should never use any translation automation blindly, reason #6153671...
- christkv 3y agoMan that cracked me up.
- Wowfunhappy 3y agoDeepl seems to have no trouble with this: https://www.deepl.com/translator-mobile#sv/en/krya%20på%20dig%20Björn https://www.deepl.com/translator-mobile#sv/en/krya%20på%20di...
- majikaja 3y agoEnd of life planning in Japanese translates to suicide https://www-eranda-jp.translate.goog/column/24550?_x_tr_sl=ja&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc https://www-eranda-jp.translate.goog/column/24550?_x_tr_sl=j...
- vjerancrnjak 3y agoMy First Last name translates to Faithful Negro whenever I do translations from Any -> English. I always find it funny when dealing with bureaucracy.
- irrational 3y agoConstance Black?
- selimthegrim 3y agoLook at the username
- timthelion 3y agoWhat percent of HN readers know a Slavic language? It is true, though, in Czech at least his user name is Faithful Black
- irrational 3y agoHonestly, that looks like a random string of letters strung together to me. If it is a name, I don’t recognize the provenance.
- croisillon 3y agothe "crnj" part might remind you of Chernobyl
- karaterobot 3y agoAll you have to do is enter the username into Google Translate and it will make sense.
- BrandoElFollito 3y agoI do not know your language, but at least in Polish the translation makes some sense. They have the word "czarny" which means "black". "czarny kot" is "black cat", "on jest czarny" is "he is black". The latter is purely descriptive. There is also the word "czarnuch" which is the VERY offensive word for Blacks, best translated by "negro". Now, the last name "Czarnuch" is a normal last name, without any connotations to the color black (except probably in its etymology) and does not sound weird/offensive. The translation of this capitalized word would naturally yield "Negro".
- vjerancrnjak 3y agoCrnjak (tsr̩̂ɲak) has usages in Croatian language, one of them is "black" wine, the other is black joke. There might be a reference somewhere where it is used as a description of a person, but probably not in Croatian. I did notice Google Translate hallucinates words, some very amusing, when I translate from Any -> Croatian (this happens automatically when reading Google Maps place reviews). There has been quite a lot of words that naturally map to Croatian but there's no text (outside of blogspam) that uses it on the Internet.
- selcuka 3y agoWell, you are joking, but there is research [1] that concluded that some ailments, such as depression, can be cured by, well... [1] https://www.albany.edu/news/releases/2002/june2002/gallupstudy0602.html https://www.albany.edu/news/releases/2002/june2002/gallupstu...
- prettyStandard 3y agoI think you are lost.
- prettyStandard 3y agoI'm trying to be helpful? I'm just saying this comment doesn't seem to be related to OP. https://www.reddit.com/r/lostredditors https://www.reddit.com/r/lostredditors
- selcuka 3y agoIt was actually on-topic. I guess not many people got the joke, or maybe some found it offensive (was it?) but it was actually relevant to the topic, if only a bit tangentially.
- prettyStandard 3y agoCan you explain? I was actually about to send the link to my girl. So no I was not offended, lol.
- selcuka 3y agoGoogle incorrectly translates "get well soon" as "eff you", but "effing" can actually heal some health problems, so it may as well mean "get well soon".
- ano-ther 3y agoMaybe victim of an “improve this translation” prank. Deepl gets it right btw: https://www.deepl.com/translator-mobile#sv/en/krya%20på%20dig%20Björn https://www.deepl.com/translator-mobile#sv/en/krya%20på%20di...
- capableweb 3y agoDeepL gets every translation I try consistently better, at such a better rate that I don't even know why people use Google Translate anymore.
- reaperman 3y agoChatGPT beats DeepL for me as well (especially GPT-4), although I like DeepL's UX better for now where it quickly shows you related words which helps me better understand the meaning. Very impressed with GPT-4 translation though -- especially the ability to steer it between "transliteration", "keep the meaning", "keep the tone", "use local idioms where appropriate", "explain different possible meanings/intentions", etc.
- capableweb 3y ago> ChatGPT beats DeepL for me as well I've tried it when I had the time to compare (DeepL vs GPT4), and find them to be pretty equal. But DeepL easily win on speed. 5 paragraphs would take just some seconds with DeepL and be almost 100% correct, while GPT4 would take almost a minute (sometimes more) while being about the same amount of correct. > Very impressed with GPT-4 translation though -- especially the ability to steer it between "transliteration", "keep the meaning", "keep the tone", "use local idioms where appropriate", "explain different possible meanings/intentions", etc. I've found that DeepL already does this well even thought it's not a LLM (as far as I know).
- reaperman 3y ago> I've found that DeepL already does this well Yes. DeepL is very good! But with ChatGPT I can "tune" it more towards one way, whereas DeepL just only does whatever it does. DeepL has very very sensible defaults and the UI is great. But in fairness, DeepL basically will never just insert an appropriate idiom. Also GPT-3.5 is still worth comparing to DeepL as well.
- cloudking 3y agoThis must be the start of the singularity
- raxxorraxor 3y agoClearly a case of tranlating of the meaning instead of being literal.
- borlum 3y ago“As a language model, f*k you Tony”
- pthreads 3y agoYou better not bring my model into this Ezekiel!
- borlum 3y ago”As a language model, fuck you Tony”
- d--b 3y agoas well as "va te faire foutre Bjorn" in French, "vete a la mierda Bjorn" in Spanish.
- pdpi 3y ago"Foda-se Björn" in Portuguese, which is, interestingly, a bit different in meaning. For the lack of a better description, it's closer to disappointment than anger. "Well, fuck me, Bjorn " rather than "Fuck you, Bjorn" (which would've been "vai-te foder, Björn"), that sort of thing.
- davidw 3y agoItalian too.
- gregn610 3y agoBut if you play with the name, the translation is different: - krya på dig Helga - take care of yourself Helga - krya på dig Dave - screw you dave - krya på dig Mary - come on Mary - krya på dig Linnéa - brace yourself Linnéa - krya på dig Mohammad - fuck you Mohammad
- cotillion 3y agoIts aggression is related to animals somehow. - krya på dig katt (cat) - fuck you cat Björn is also bear in swedish.
- etu 3y agoThere's a difference between Björn (the name) and björn (the animal). Capitalization gives additional context in this case, if it were in the beginning of the sentence though, then one would hope it contains other clues as well
- Tagbert 3y ago- krya på dig Robert - get over it Robert It’s a strange little circle of anomalies
- byteknight 3y agoThis is fun krya på dig Cat - screw you Cat. krya på dig balloon - get on you balloon. krya på dig tacos - grab some tacos. krya på dig applesauce - put on some applesauce.
- croisillon 3y agoi was kind of expecting Ingrid to spell out the original fyi acronym but Google gets even that wrong: krya på dig Ingrid - get over it Ingrid
- waitwhat 3y agoIf you capitalise the first word (a signal to the algorithm to be more sentence-based than word-based, perhaps?) - Krya på dig Björn - Get over it Björn - Krya på dig Helga - Get over it Helga - Krya på dig Dave - Get over it Dave - Krya på dig Mary - Get over it Mary - Krya på dig Linnéa - Come on Linnéa - Krya på dig Mohammad - Get over it Mohammad
- hprotagonist 3y agotangentially i’m still sad about the loss of the easter egg one used to obtain when attempting to translate “Wenn ist das Nunstück git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!” into english.
- mwcremer 3y agoFew today remember Ernest Scribbler.
- seydor 3y agoMaybe it is implied that you ll get well first
- postsantum 3y agoFun fact about how this can bite you in the ass: 1) Make an android app and publish it 2) Write "Get well [firstname]" in sweden locale 3) Enjoy your ban because google uses google translate to look for inappropriate language in app descriptions
- dsizzle 3y agoYou get different translations depending on the name. Some variations I see "Screw you", "Get over it", "Brace yourself"
- Oras 3y agoBetween 2003 and 2005, Google translate was translating: شعب يباد = (people are being exterminated) To: Iraqi People
- rootusrootus 3y agoAnd of course ChatGPT 4.0 gets it exactly right. What's wrong at Google lately?
- chankstein38 3y agoGoogle. I feel like they were great for a while but they fell off at some point and just started copying everyone and failing at doing anything better. So yeah, I think the answer to "What's wrong at Google?" is "Google"
- bedane 3y agofrench trick input 'baiser' -> Google translates to 'kiss' now add a female first name after 'baiser', 'kiss' will become 'fuck'
- archon1410 3y agoIt works for male first names too. And last names too.
- version_five 3y agoWithout context, that's what it means in French though... Can a Swedish speaker say if something similar is going here?
- chaorace 3y agoThis reminds me of the recent so-called "Glitch Token" phenomenon[1]. When GPT-3 was presented with reserved tokens it never encountered during training, it reacted in extremely unpredictable ways -- often with a simple "fuck you". For those unfamiliar with LLM architecture: "tokens" are the smallest unit of lexical information available to the model. Common words often have their own token (e.g.: Every word in the phrase "The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog" has a dedicated token), but this is a coincidence of compression and not how the model understands language (e.g.: GPT-3 understands "defenestration" even though it's composed of 4 apparently unrelated tokens: "def", "en", "est", "ration"). The actual mechanism of understanding is in learned associations between tokens. In other words: the model understands the meaning of "def","en","est","ration" because it learns through training that this cluster of tokens has something to do with the literary concept of violently removing a human via window. When a model encounters unexpected arrangements of tokens ("en","ration","est","def"), it behaves much like a human might: it infers the meaning through context or otherwise voices confusion (e.g.: "I'm sorry, what's 'enrationestdef'?"). This is distinctly different from what the model does when it encounters a completely alien form of stimulation like the aforementioned "Glitch Tokens". At the risk of anthropomorphizing, try imagining if you were having a conversation with a fellow human and they uttered the following sentence "Hey, did you catch the [MODEM NOISES]?". You've probably never before heard a human vocalize a 2400Hz tone during casual conversation -- much like GPT-3 has never before encountered the token "SolidGoldMagicarp". Not only is the stimulus unintelligble, it exists completely beyond the perceived realm of possible stimulus. This is pretty analagous to what we'd call "undefined behavior" in more traditional programming. The model still has a strong preference for producing a convincingly human response, yet it doesn't have any pathways set up for categorizing the stimulus, so the model kind of just regurgitates a learned lowest-common-denominator response (insults are common). This oddly aggressive stock response is interesting, because it's actually the exact same type of behavior that was coded into one of the first chatbots to (tenuously) pass a Turing test. I'm of course referring to the "MGonz" chatbot created in 1989[2]. The MGonz chatbot never truly engaged in conversation -- rather, it continuously piled on invective after invective whilst criticizing the human's intelligence and sex life. People seem predisposed to interpreting aggression as human, even when the underlying language is, at best, barely coherent. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO2X3oZEJOA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO2X3oZEJOA [2]: https://timharford.com/2022/04/what-an-abusive-chatbot-teaches-us-about-the-art-of-conversation/ https://timharford.com/2022/04/what-an-abusive-chatbot-teach...
- kfitch42 3y agoI don't know much about Swedish, but I am learning Korean, and Google Translate is dangerous in a much more subtle way with Korean. In particular, in Korean you conjugate verbs (and often, choose different nouns) based on the relative age and social standing of the speaker and listener. In Korean specific translation tools (e.g. Naver) there is a toggle to select whether to use "honorifics" or not. But, Google tends to default to the form of speech (banmal) reserved for talking to young children or close friends. But, if I am using a translation tool, I probably don't know the person I am conversing with very well. As a result the translations tend to come off as very rude. If I used Google Translate to talk to a shopkeeper, it would be roughly equivalent to saying "Hey, little buddy, how much for this?" as opposed to "Excuse me sir, what is the cost of this item?" And this is all without considering all the weird mistranslations you can get because Korean is much more heavily context dependent than English. Korean speakers often leave out the subject or object if it can be understood from context (context that the translation tools are likely missing). So Google translate will insert pronouns (it, him, her...) to make the English flow better, but are not based on anything in the original Korean. So, if it guesses wrong, you could imagine the level of confusion that could ensue. And then all the homonyms in Korean combined with the heavy context dependence makes for some weird translation. I once tried checking my Korean homework with Google translate, and before I knew it, I was drinking a car.