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As a non-american I dont really understand the context here? I get the "CA not a slave state" bit, but is the CA population dropping? and how does this feed int

As a non-american I dont really understand the context here? I get the "CA not a slave state" bit, but is the CA population dropping? and how does this feed into that?

KptMarchewa 3y ago
Apparently changed from 39.37 million to 39.24. "Cratering" is as hyperbolic as can be.
- tyingq 3y ago
  A map where you can track by county: https://www.axios.com/2023/04/07/population-change-pandemic https://www.axios.com/2023/04/07/population-change-pandemic I agree it's still overstated, but the -7% in San Francisco county is interesting.
  - dariusj18 3y ago
    COVID would probably have been a huge factor in that one. A city known for tech and expensive living, all of a sudden people don't have to go into an office and can get the same salary and live elsewhere cheaper.
  - professoretc 3y ago
    That doesn't tell you that all of those people left the state, though. A lot of SF folks moved to other parts of CA; housing prices in Fresno went crazy during the pandemic, anecdotally because it was all Bay Area folks discovering that they could now remote-work from anywhere.
- incomingpain 3y ago
  39.5 -> 38.9
- KoftaBob 3y ago
  Actually according to census data, CA population peaked in 2020 at 39.5 million, and as of 2022 was at 39.02 million, a drop of almost 500k people. While I agree "cratering" is still hyperbolic for that change, it's quite a bit more than the numbers you mentioned imply.
tyingq 3y ago
I don't happen to agree, but GP is saying people are leaving CA and moving to other US states because they are dissatisfied with the dominance of liberal politics there.
- porkbeer 3y ago
  Agree with what? Population is in fact dropping, the data is there for all to see.
  - red-iron-pine 3y ago
    The point the parent comment was attempting to make was that there is a perception, perhaps true (or not), that left-wing policies are driving out conservative or moderate voters. COL is high and political stunts like this do little to remedy the issues faced by the average person in CA.
  - tyingq 3y ago
    >Agree with what? The reasons why.
reb 3y ago
Common right-wing talking point: California’s liberal policy decisions are turning it into a lawless, woke, communist hell-hole that rational citizens are leaving in droves for enlightened states like Texas (ed. note: where they can get murdered in one of the monthly right-to-bear-arms rituals).
- ulizzle 3y ago
  Sam Altman said that he doesn't like the open-air fentanyl markets either. I dunno how these ppl avoid catching a heart attack from cognitive dissonance.
  - adfm 3y ago
    Tenderloin got its name because coppers would get extra for working a shift there, allowing them to afford a better cut of meat. It’s always been like that. Same with mid-market. It’s a city. Move back to the valley or whatever burb you rolled in from if it doesn’t appeal to you.
- adfm 3y ago
  With the high cost of living who can afford to own the libs? $44B seems excessive.

As a non-american I dont really understand the context here? I get the "CA not a slave state" bit, but is the CA population dropping? and how does this feed into that?

KptMarchewa 3y ago

Apparently changed from 39.37 million to 39.24. "Cratering" is as hyperbolic as can be.

tyingq 3y ago
A map where you can track by county: https://www.axios.com/2023/04/07/population-change-pandemic https://www.axios.com/2023/04/07/population-change-pandemic I agree it's still overstated, but the -7% in San Francisco county is interesting.
- dariusj18 3y ago
  COVID would probably have been a huge factor in that one. A city known for tech and expensive living, all of a sudden people don't have to go into an office and can get the same salary and live elsewhere cheaper.
- professoretc 3y ago
  That doesn't tell you that all of those people left the state, though. A lot of SF folks moved to other parts of CA; housing prices in Fresno went crazy during the pandemic, anecdotally because it was all Bay Area folks discovering that they could now remote-work from anywhere.
incomingpain 3y ago
39.5 -> 38.9
KoftaBob 3y ago
Actually according to census data, CA population peaked in 2020 at 39.5 million, and as of 2022 was at 39.02 million, a drop of almost 500k people. While I agree "cratering" is still hyperbolic for that change, it's quite a bit more than the numbers you mentioned imply.

tyingq 3y ago

I don't happen to agree, but GP is saying people are leaving CA and moving to other US states because they are dissatisfied with the dominance of liberal politics there.

porkbeer 3y ago
Agree with what? Population is in fact dropping, the data is there for all to see.
- red-iron-pine 3y ago
  The point the parent comment was attempting to make was that there is a perception, perhaps true (or not), that left-wing policies are driving out conservative or moderate voters. COL is high and political stunts like this do little to remedy the issues faced by the average person in CA.
- tyingq 3y ago
  >Agree with what? The reasons why.

reb 3y ago

Common right-wing talking point: California’s liberal policy decisions are turning it into a lawless, woke, communist hell-hole that rational citizens are leaving in droves for enlightened states like Texas (ed. note: where they can get murdered in one of the monthly right-to-bear-arms rituals).

ulizzle 3y ago
Sam Altman said that he doesn't like the open-air fentanyl markets either. I dunno how these ppl avoid catching a heart attack from cognitive dissonance.
- adfm 3y ago
  Tenderloin got its name because coppers would get extra for working a shift there, allowing them to afford a better cut of meat. It’s always been like that. Same with mid-market. It’s a city. Move back to the valley or whatever burb you rolled in from if it doesn’t appeal to you.
adfm 3y ago
With the high cost of living who can afford to own the libs? $44B seems excessive.