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I've not heard about that being a big issue here on the first place, and it absolutely doesn't justify the blatant dismantling of our democracy. They've been g

I've not heard about that being a big issue here on the first place, and it absolutely doesn't justify the blatant dismantling of our democracy. They've been gradually pushing fascist laws into place for years, this is just the latest in a long stream. I honestly don't understand why nobody seems more concerned about stuff like this.

Aromasin 3y ago
Political apathy is at an all time low in the UK it feels like. We've had political upheaval after upheaval in the last 10-15 years, be it Brexit, Covid-19, Tory Austerity, the Coalition government, rising Scottish Independence sentiments, the Russia-Ukraine conflict, and Truss almost singlehandedly rocketing inflation to something we haven't seen since the financial crisis in the early 2000's. People are exhausted by a never-ending parade of scandals. The conservative government should have been out in 2019, but were saved by having a socialist, Corbyn led opposition party that did not resonate with any of their centrist Blairite voter base. Labour crumbled into infighting, and the Conservatives swept up another 48 seats. Most people just want to keep their heads down and make it through this period of financial uncertainty, waiting out until the next general election so they can oust the Conservatives. Of course the Tories are going to try and sneak in as much abhorrent policy as they can in the time they have left.
- Dalewyn 3y ago
  >Political apathy is at an all time low in the UK it feels like. Do you mean all time high? "Apathy" means a "lack of interest or concern"[1], so "all time low lack of interest or concern" would suggest political interest is at an all time high due to double negatives ("low lack"). [1]: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/apathy https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/apathy
  - stareatgoats 3y ago
    It's not hard to understand what they meant.
  - Aromasin 3y ago
    I did mean all time high. A simple word slip.
- okeuro49 3y ago
  > Of course the Tories are going to try and sneak in as much abhorrent policy as they can in the time they have left. Labour have been captured by the fringe outside of its own party, so I don't have much hopes for Labour over the Tories.
  - dagw 3y ago
    Labour have been captured by the fringe outside of its own party I hear this a lot from a lot of people in and around the Labour Party, but no one seems to agree on who is 'inside' and who is 'outside'. Which fringe are you referring to? The "Blairite" fringe or the "Corbynista" fringe.
- gadders 3y ago
  Truss was in power in September/October and only put inflation up 0.5% https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/inflation-cpi https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/inflation-cpi The problem with the Tories is that they have imposed some of the highest levels of personal taxation ever seen. If the Conservatives are not a low tax party, then they lose their whole purpose and we get the Labour-lite Davos-man bunch of incompetents we have now.
maxehmookau 3y ago
> I've not heard about that being a big issue here on the first place, and it absolutely doesn't justify the blatant dismantling of our democracy. As someone who lives within walking distance of an abortion clinic, I can say that it is a very serious issue and money is pouring in to anti-choice groups in the UK.

Aromasin 3y ago

Political apathy is at an all time low in the UK it feels like. We've had political upheaval after upheaval in the last 10-15 years, be it Brexit, Covid-19, Tory Austerity, the Coalition government, rising Scottish Independence sentiments, the Russia-Ukraine conflict, and Truss almost singlehandedly rocketing inflation to something we haven't seen since the financial crisis in the early 2000's. People are exhausted by a never-ending parade of scandals. The conservative government should have been out in 2019, but were saved by having a socialist, Corbyn led opposition party that did not resonate with any of their centrist Blairite voter base. Labour crumbled into infighting, and the Conservatives swept up another 48 seats. Most people just want to keep their heads down and make it through this period of financial uncertainty, waiting out until the next general election so they can oust the Conservatives. Of course the Tories are going to try and sneak in as much abhorrent policy as they can in the time they have left.

Dalewyn 3y ago
>Political apathy is at an all time low in the UK it feels like. Do you mean all time high? "Apathy" means a "lack of interest or concern"[1], so "all time low lack of interest or concern" would suggest political interest is at an all time high due to double negatives ("low lack"). [1]: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/apathy https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/apathy
- stareatgoats 3y ago
  It's not hard to understand what they meant.
- Aromasin 3y ago
  I did mean all time high. A simple word slip.
okeuro49 3y ago
> Of course the Tories are going to try and sneak in as much abhorrent policy as they can in the time they have left. Labour have been captured by the fringe outside of its own party, so I don't have much hopes for Labour over the Tories.
- dagw 3y ago
  Labour have been captured by the fringe outside of its own party I hear this a lot from a lot of people in and around the Labour Party, but no one seems to agree on who is 'inside' and who is 'outside'. Which fringe are you referring to? The "Blairite" fringe or the "Corbynista" fringe.
gadders 3y ago
Truss was in power in September/October and only put inflation up 0.5% https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/inflation-cpi https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/inflation-cpi The problem with the Tories is that they have imposed some of the highest levels of personal taxation ever seen. If the Conservatives are not a low tax party, then they lose their whole purpose and we get the Labour-lite Davos-man bunch of incompetents we have now.

maxehmookau 3y ago

> I've not heard about that being a big issue here on the first place, and it absolutely doesn't justify the blatant dismantling of our democracy. As someone who lives within walking distance of an abortion clinic, I can say that it is a very serious issue and money is pouring in to anti-choice groups in the UK.