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*Some amount of women and minorities attribute dismissive doctors to their sex or race. I’m a straight white man and I’ve had plenty of dismissive doctors over

*Some amount of women and minorities attribute dismissive doctors to their sex or race. I’m a straight white man and I’ve had plenty of dismissive doctors over the years too. It turns out arrogance, laziness, or a lack of time have little to do with the patient themselves.

yieldcrv 3y ago
I think its fine as written because we no longer have to do any empirical analysis anymore just to accommodate your view of the outcome, LLMs are here
newswasboring 3y ago
This is a hilarious example of how you don't get it. People in your position think because they have experienced a mild version of something or experienced something once they now know exactly how any other minority experiences the world. This doesn't make you a bad person btw, just means you are not aware of how small your social context is.
- Auracle 3y ago
  Mild? When I was 17 I went in to the doctor because of extreme fatigue. He just slapped me on some antidepressants and called it a day. Years later I happened to read about low testosterone symptoms, which matched me very well. He eventually acquiesced to letting me test, and it came back 2 points above the low end of normal - which probably by itself qualified as low for my age. He wouldn't let me do a quick trial of testosterone supplementation nor test again, but I begged him to refer me to an endocrinologist. The endocrinologist (2 hours away) was worse. 100% dismissive, straight up told me I didn't have low testosterone. He did however let me test again, and this time I was 150 below normal. I asked to be put on medications that would maintain my fertility. He told me I didn't need to worry about losing my fertility on straight up testosterone, which is 100% false. I'm going to cut the story off there, but it keeps going. My dad almost died because doctors didn't diagnose his lupus. My sister's friend lost her father when we were young because of an infection after some dental work where they dentist completely dismissed his pain after the fact. Everyone is unaware of how "small their social context is," which is exactly my point. If I were a minority I very well might be blaming my story on that.
  - newswasboring 3y ago
    You are completely missing the multidimensional aspect of this. I really didn't want to anger you, and that's why I chose to write my comment carefully. Apparently not careful enough. But imagine this dismissal, but in every part of your life. Your dad got misdiagnosed for lupus? They don't even believe that we have can a headache. Just chill man and accept that some people can have more problems than you and some communities have more problems than straight white males. If the only thing that will stop you from dismissing this is hard core data, i think you should recalibrate your empathy circuits.
flangola7 3y ago
This comment is so painfully predictable I don't even need a fancy transformer model to predict it. A bash script would be good enough
vidarh 3y ago
As a straight white man, on one hand I've also seen this. On the other hand, having had a black female partner and seen first hand the dismissive attitudes she often had to deal with from doctors until she started pointing out to them every chance she got that she's a lawyer: What you and I deal with is nothing like what they women and minorities deal with from doctors. Yes, we could benefit from better doctors too, but the difference is stark.

yieldcrv 3y ago

I think its fine as written because we no longer have to do any empirical analysis anymore just to accommodate your view of the outcome, LLMs are here

newswasboring 3y ago

This is a hilarious example of how you don't get it. People in your position think because they have experienced a mild version of something or experienced something once they now know exactly how any other minority experiences the world. This doesn't make you a bad person btw, just means you are not aware of how small your social context is.

Auracle 3y ago
Mild? When I was 17 I went in to the doctor because of extreme fatigue. He just slapped me on some antidepressants and called it a day. Years later I happened to read about low testosterone symptoms, which matched me very well. He eventually acquiesced to letting me test, and it came back 2 points above the low end of normal - which probably by itself qualified as low for my age. He wouldn't let me do a quick trial of testosterone supplementation nor test again, but I begged him to refer me to an endocrinologist. The endocrinologist (2 hours away) was worse. 100% dismissive, straight up told me I didn't have low testosterone. He did however let me test again, and this time I was 150 below normal. I asked to be put on medications that would maintain my fertility. He told me I didn't need to worry about losing my fertility on straight up testosterone, which is 100% false. I'm going to cut the story off there, but it keeps going. My dad almost died because doctors didn't diagnose his lupus. My sister's friend lost her father when we were young because of an infection after some dental work where they dentist completely dismissed his pain after the fact. Everyone is unaware of how "small their social context is," which is exactly my point. If I were a minority I very well might be blaming my story on that.
- newswasboring 3y ago
  You are completely missing the multidimensional aspect of this. I really didn't want to anger you, and that's why I chose to write my comment carefully. Apparently not careful enough. But imagine this dismissal, but in every part of your life. Your dad got misdiagnosed for lupus? They don't even believe that we have can a headache. Just chill man and accept that some people can have more problems than you and some communities have more problems than straight white males. If the only thing that will stop you from dismissing this is hard core data, i think you should recalibrate your empathy circuits.

flangola7 3y ago

This comment is so painfully predictable I don't even need a fancy transformer model to predict it. A bash script would be good enough

vidarh 3y ago

As a straight white man, on one hand I've also seen this. On the other hand, having had a black female partner and seen first hand the dismissive attitudes she often had to deal with from doctors until she started pointing out to them every chance she got that she's a lawyer: What you and I deal with is nothing like what they women and minorities deal with from doctors. Yes, we could benefit from better doctors too, but the difference is stark.