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And in turn, I cannot agree with you. I can do math myself, thank you very much. If I take the effort to pull out a math calculating machine, the calculation i

And in turn, I cannot agree with you. I can do math myself, thank you very much. If I take the effort to pull out a math calculating machine, the calculation is important enough that I want 99.99% certainty that the answer is right. Under the premise that the answer is wrong, I want 99.999% certainty that the failure is related to data capture and not the calculating mechanism itself. Within the context of LLMs, the goal should be to make them recognize that the problem at hand is not well suited for its own set of capabilities, and to defer to an external system. In the case of ChatGPT, any numeric answer to "15+23" (including and specially "38") is wrong. The correct answer is "sorry, as a Large Language Model I can retrieve information that is encoded in English and I am not specially suited to solve math problems". A LLM-empowered Alexa may be proactive, run a Calculator program for you and report back "According to bc program, the answer is 38. Here's the full log for you to check if this is what you wanted" This is not so much AGI as deliberate programmatic patching, not unlike the disclaimers when you ask ChatGPT about controversial topics.

pmoriarty 3y ago
"I can do math myself, thank you very much." You might be able to do math yourself, but there are many practical reasons why you wouldn't or couldn't do all sorts of math -- even simple math. For example, how you find the median value of a billion random numbers without a computer? You wouldn't have time in your lifetime to do this, not to mention that you'd probably make a lot of mistakes despite the process being very simple in principle. A computer could do this easily, and even were it to be a little off in its answer, that would be far preferable to devoting your entire lifetime to finding the answer yourself. That's just one very simple example. It's not hard to find plenty more.
- carlitossway 3y ago
  Yes, I am glad we have computers. I am also glad that I can code a median function that can efficiently go through a billion numbers; no need to ask the artificial averaged embodiment of millions of dumb teenagers for its duh-best-guess-lol.

pmoriarty 3y ago

"I can do math myself, thank you very much." You might be able to do math yourself, but there are many practical reasons why you wouldn't or couldn't do all sorts of math -- even simple math. For example, how you find the median value of a billion random numbers without a computer? You wouldn't have time in your lifetime to do this, not to mention that you'd probably make a lot of mistakes despite the process being very simple in principle. A computer could do this easily, and even were it to be a little off in its answer, that would be far preferable to devoting your entire lifetime to finding the answer yourself. That's just one very simple example. It's not hard to find plenty more.

carlitossway 3y ago
Yes, I am glad we have computers. I am also glad that I can code a median function that can efficiently go through a billion numbers; no need to ask the artificial averaged embodiment of millions of dumb teenagers for its duh-best-guess-lol.