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hmm... So, ethics panels are not needed? What is a few lives in ways of progress? FAA and spaceX circumvented existing process - there was a larger article that

by vaidhy 3y ago

hmm... So, ethics panels are not needed? What is a few lives in ways of progress? FAA and spaceX circumvented existing process - there was a larger article that this is going to be an ecological disaster before the launch that was posted here [0]. You are willing to sacrifice what is in your hand now for an nebulous future promise and that seems to be equally faulty bias on the other side. Almost all fraud happens with a vague promise of future gains, if only you can sacrifice a little now. What differentiates false promises from true hope? How much would be risk on a too unbelievable outcome? These kind of "looking from hindsight" articles are pretty useless. Every idea that has to be funded also needs to have a realistic chance of success at that point in time. [0] - https://blog.esghound.com/p/spacexs-texas-rocket-is-going-to https://blog.esghound.com/p/spacexs-texas-rocket-is-going-to

jiggawatts 3y ago
That blog your linked is packed with emotional speech and hyperbole. "Noise bomb" is one of the literal headings. It's a rocket launch pad, what did they expect, a gentle susurration whispering through the reeds of the uninhabited wetlands!? This anonymous "ESG Hound" character posts virtually nothing but rabid anti-SpaceX rhetoric. I bet he doesn't even live in Texas. (For reference, the locals, when interviewed, said they welcome the huge uptick in business SpaceX brought.) This particular unhinged rant is about the sound levels, saying that "110 decibels" can cause structural damage in nearby towns, etc... First of all: no, it can't. That's absurd. I live 2.5 miles from a sports stadium where they semi-regularly host rock concerts that go up to 120 dB. At that distance, that's louder than when my neighbour turns his stereo up to 11. This insanely loud sound goes on for hours on end, but it is perfectly legal, and that stadium has apartment blocks a mere few hundred yards away from it! Second, whatever "ecological impact" SpaceX had on the area, it pales in comparison to everyday, ordinary industrial activities. Building demolitions, mine blasting, road works, F1 races, etc... Elon rightly pointed out in an interview afterwards that the area is prone to tornadoes and hurricanes, which do vastly more damage. No human activity can even hope to match what nature can do, short of nuclear weapons testing. What actually happened is that a few chunks of concrete were strewn about, an activity accompanied by a noise so awesome that people flew there to get the chance to experience it! > What differentiates false promises from true hope? Who said everything had to be certain? So what if SpaceX fails and we have nothing to show for it except some deafened seagulls and concrete littering a beach? Should we never strive for the stars just because to get there we might make a mess? Who are you to nail humanity's feet to the ground?

by vaidhy 3y ago

jiggawatts 3y ago

That blog your linked is packed with emotional speech and hyperbole. "Noise bomb" is one of the literal headings. It's a rocket launch pad, what did they expect, a gentle susurration whispering through the reeds of the uninhabited wetlands!? This anonymous "ESG Hound" character posts virtually nothing but rabid anti-SpaceX rhetoric. I bet he doesn't even live in Texas. (For reference, the locals, when interviewed, said they welcome the huge uptick in business SpaceX brought.) This particular unhinged rant is about the sound levels, saying that "110 decibels" can cause structural damage in nearby towns, etc... First of all: no, it can't. That's absurd. I live 2.5 miles from a sports stadium where they semi-regularly host rock concerts that go up to 120 dB. At that distance, that's louder than when my neighbour turns his stereo up to 11. This insanely loud sound goes on for hours on end, but it is perfectly legal, and that stadium has apartment blocks a mere few hundred yards away from it! Second, whatever "ecological impact" SpaceX had on the area, it pales in comparison to everyday, ordinary industrial activities. Building demolitions, mine blasting, road works, F1 races, etc... Elon rightly pointed out in an interview afterwards that the area is prone to tornadoes and hurricanes, which do vastly more damage. No human activity can even hope to match what nature can do, short of nuclear weapons testing. What actually happened is that a few chunks of concrete were strewn about, an activity accompanied by a noise so awesome that people flew there to get the chance to experience it! > What differentiates false promises from true hope? Who said everything had to be certain? So what if SpaceX fails and we have nothing to show for it except some deafened seagulls and concrete littering a beach? Should we never strive for the stars just because to get there we might make a mess? Who are you to nail humanity's feet to the ground?