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It should probably say “modern American cop novel.”
by ojbyrne 3y ago
It should probably say “modern American cop novel.”
- m463 3y agoI agree. Sort of like how Clint Eastwood redefined Westerns from the cleancut western hero to a more morally ambiguous unshaven guy with a different sort of charisma.
- borroka 3y agoSergio Leone and the writers of his movies (Leone, Vincenzoni, Di Leo etc.) redefined Westerns, Clint Eastwood acted in the movies that redefined the Western genre.
- m463 3y agoYou're right of course, yet I will say that Leone plus Clint Eastwood worked better than some of the other actors Leone chose, like Henry Fonda or Lee Van Cleef.
- OJFord 3y agoDoesn't the word 'cop' do that already? It does for me anyway.
- ojbyrne 3y agoI was going to say that, but a little googling showed me the word “cop” is not of American origin.
- StrangeSound 3y agoI'm not sure "cop" has American origins. http://orvillejenkins.com/words/cops.html http://orvillejenkins.com/words/cops.html
- Hunpeter 3y agoInterestingly, in my native language (Hungarian) the word "kopó", which means a kind of hunting dog, used to be slang for a detective. I thought there maybe was some connection to "cop", but apparently it's just a coincidence.
- OJFord 3y agoNeither does 'Fall' (season), but in modern usage it all but guarantees the speaker is North American (or ESL and learnt it from them).
- Karellen 3y agoI reckon quite a few countries with English as an official language will have "cop" as a nickname for "police" - even in places where their police culture might significantly different from US police culture.
- version_five 3y agoAlso, in non-English speaking places, there are usually long standing slang words of similar standing, e.g "flic" in French. The evolution of police novels is multi-linglua (Wahloo / Sjowall, Simenon) so reading "cop" in english is not a dead giveaway, though I understand the point having read through the discussion.