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I've been out of touch for a while now in the CMS field; is Wordpress considered the default CRM in 2023?

devmor 3y ago
WordPress has been and remains the default CRM since the inception of free/low cost hosting. The ease and low cost of multi-tenant PHP environments combined with the incredibly massive resource base of themes and plugins basically makes it unstoppable for anyone needing something more than what Squarespace can offer in a budget web platform. The fact that it can be shoe horned into doing so much at an "acceptable" level of quality makes it a nearly unkillable zombie.
- lmm 3y ago
  > WordPress has been and remains the default CRM since the inception of free/low cost hosting. Not quite. In the very distant past Movable Type was the incumbent and WordPress was the scrappy upstart trying to displace it.
  - markdown 3y ago
    Joomla was the leader in CMS’s for a long time, until WP broadened it’s target market away from just blogs.
    - lagniappe 3y ago
      I think drupal was a thing for a while too, but it didn't make much sense to me at the time.
      - devmor 3y ago
        Drupal was very popular for people who reached the limits of what WordPress could do.
    - 12907835202 3y ago
      Let's not forget Mambo
  - below43 3y ago
    Your mention here is the first time I've heard of Movable Type.
    - CharlesW 3y ago
      Kid, have a seat. We've been hoping we wouldn't have to tell you this story, but it's time you learn about the Great Blogging Platform Wars of the last 2000s…
    - deafpolygon 3y ago
      I have not heard that in a LONG time... that thing was awful, tbh. WP was amazing when it came along.
  - j16sdiz 3y ago
    MT are mostly perl-based, and generates (mostly) static html back in its day. Free PHP web hosting was easier to find.
- hoofhearted 3y ago
  So how do I kill this “zombie”? I know there has to be a better way using modern tech.
  - jurimasa 3y ago
    You need something that can: - be easily installed in a low-budget LAMP server - implement an online store in a few clicks - be used and administrated mostly by non-tech people
    - hoofhearted 3y ago
      I believe I may have the first part covered. I created a react based content creation framework that is easily set up in a few clicks, and can be deployed to Vercel for almost free hosting. I’m working on formulating your second requirement now. Some higher level features will certainly require a backend of some sort, but my original hypothesize was to eliminate a backend server and database if I can. Some of my biggest challenges with Wordpress in the past were staying on top of updates and making sure my plugins didn’t get hacked. I’m thinking I’m going to offer a simple and cheap hosted version soon that non tech people can login to and administrate all their content.
harrisi 3y ago
According to https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/content_management https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/content_management, yes, by a large margin.
- anshumankmr 3y ago
  > https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/content_management https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/content_management What a bummer... Strapi (and others) have a market share < 0.1 % (I was using it for my blog and I found it relatively easy to set up)
  - harrisi 3y ago
    Alternatively, it's pretty exciting that alternatives to the behemoth that is WordPress can have a (seemingly) decently-sized and happy user base. WordPress has been and is winning most users, but at least there is competition.

WordPress has been and remains the default CRM since the inception of free/low cost hosting. The ease and low cost of multi-tenant PHP environments combined with the incredibly massive resource base of themes and plugins basically makes it unstoppable for anyone needing something more than what Squarespace can offer in a budget web platform. The fact that it can be shoe horned into doing so much at an "acceptable" level of quality makes it a nearly unkillable zombie.

lmm 3y ago
> WordPress has been and remains the default CRM since the inception of free/low cost hosting. Not quite. In the very distant past Movable Type was the incumbent and WordPress was the scrappy upstart trying to displace it.
- markdown 3y ago
  Joomla was the leader in CMS’s for a long time, until WP broadened it’s target market away from just blogs.
  - lagniappe 3y ago
    I think drupal was a thing for a while too, but it didn't make much sense to me at the time.
    - devmor 3y ago
      Drupal was very popular for people who reached the limits of what WordPress could do.
  - 12907835202 3y ago
    Let's not forget Mambo
- below43 3y ago
  Your mention here is the first time I've heard of Movable Type.
  - CharlesW 3y ago
    Kid, have a seat. We've been hoping we wouldn't have to tell you this story, but it's time you learn about the Great Blogging Platform Wars of the last 2000s…
  - deafpolygon 3y ago
    I have not heard that in a LONG time... that thing was awful, tbh. WP was amazing when it came along.
- j16sdiz 3y ago
  MT are mostly perl-based, and generates (mostly) static html back in its day. Free PHP web hosting was easier to find.
hoofhearted 3y ago
So how do I kill this “zombie”? I know there has to be a better way using modern tech.
- jurimasa 3y ago
  You need something that can: - be easily installed in a low-budget LAMP server - implement an online store in a few clicks - be used and administrated mostly by non-tech people
  - hoofhearted 3y ago
    I believe I may have the first part covered. I created a react based content creation framework that is easily set up in a few clicks, and can be deployed to Vercel for almost free hosting. I’m working on formulating your second requirement now. Some higher level features will certainly require a backend of some sort, but my original hypothesize was to eliminate a backend server and database if I can. Some of my biggest challenges with Wordpress in the past were staying on top of updates and making sure my plugins didn’t get hacked. I’m thinking I’m going to offer a simple and cheap hosted version soon that non tech people can login to and administrate all their content.

harrisi 3y ago

According to https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/content_management https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/content_management, yes, by a large margin.

anshumankmr 3y ago
> https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/content_management https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/content_management What a bummer... Strapi (and others) have a market share < 0.1 % (I was using it for my blog and I found it relatively easy to set up)
- harrisi 3y ago
  Alternatively, it's pretty exciting that alternatives to the behemoth that is WordPress can have a (seemingly) decently-sized and happy user base. WordPress has been and is winning most users, but at least there is competition.