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There seems to be an element of vague definitions causing problems here. Humans grow linearly. We don't suddenly wake up 20 cm taller. Linear as that may be i
by muskmusk 3y ago
There seems to be an element of vague definitions causing problems here.
Humans grow linearly. We don't suddenly wake up 20 cm taller.
Linear as that may be it still shows emergent behaviour when I am suddenly able to reach the cookie jar on the shelf.
- vsareto 3y agoThat's not really emergent as anyone could predict you'll reach the cookie jar after growing a certain height and reach. Emergence is really about unpredictable things.
- muskmusk 3y agoI generally tend to agree with you. However, to give the opposing camp some credit: causation is not always so obvious. For example I don't think today's LLM capabilities followed obviously from the state of affairs in let's say 2019. Do we call that emergence or do we use another word? I don't care, but it would certainly be nice if we could agree to use the same word :) To stay with the cookie analogy: i guess it depends on point of view as well. Everyone who can see that i am growing can predict that I will eventually reach the jar. But if I am a cookie inside the jar I can't see that and will only notice once the jar is finally reached.