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As a Greek, living in Greece i second most of the terms. Know thyself (γνώθι σαυτόν) is a big one as well. Ancient Greeks were masters of psychology, i.e. what
by emporas 3y ago
As a Greek, living in Greece i second most of the terms. Know thyself (γνώθι σαυτόν) is a big one as well. Ancient Greeks were masters of psychology, i.e. what kind of animal humans are. Are we a good creature by nature or a bad one?
The more we study chimps the more we realize that we, as their descendants, are pretty vicious as well. Education by our parents, schools and social circles play a big role, to keep in check that viciousness. How much is any ones guess!
In my opinion we are gonna solve many of the psychological problems of humans in single digit years in the near future. Dr. Daniel Amen, have stated that after examining a hundred thousand brain scans of humans, every single psychological problem people have, is observed in brain scans, as reduced electrical signals in the brain. Problems like suicidal thoughts, depression you name it. Every one of them, means the brain do not fire enough electrical signals.
The best natural substance in the world, which we produce here in Greece from the ancient times, to solve that problem, is saffron. It is on par with the best synthetic anti-depressants, and probably better. Dr. Amen eats saffron every day, and i do as well.
So there is a solution for every person on the planet to be genius 1000x or a 1.000.000x, never suffer psychological ailments, and that is to eat a lot of saffron every day. Then most of the virtues in that list, will come natural to humans.
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- zabzonk 3y ago> The more we study chimps the more we realize that we, as their descendants we are not descended from chimps
- jjtheblunt 3y agoTo disambiguate, you mean we are evolutionary cousins, i think
- zabzonk 3y agowe certainly share a common ancestor with chimps - exactly when the two current species diverged is a bit murky: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimpanzee%E2%80%93human_last_common_ancestor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimpanzee%E2%80%93human_last_...
- emporas 3y agoWhat's our closest relative animal, not gone extinct, which is alive in the world today, if not chimps?
- zabzonk 3y agothat does not mean we are descended from them
- emporas 3y agoIndeed it doesn't mean that, you are right. We share so many genes, so loosely speaking, we are their descendants. Which we are not, but for all practical purposes, we can approximately find correlations between our species, and that one, better than any other.
- Taywee 3y agoWe are descended from chimps in the same way that I am descended from my cousin. Edit: I'm realizing this could be a language barrier. "Descendent" is the inverse of "ancestor". A descendent is directly downward in lineage from an ancestor.
- emporas 3y agoOh, yeah, maybe that is. So with chimps we share a common ancestor. Even more accurate, chimps are our closest relative species living on earth today, with which we share the more close/recent ancestor.
- rflrob 3y agoBonobos are exactly as close to us as chimpanzees (by descent). Maybe the “default“ human behavior, independent of the last x thousand years of culture, is closer to one or the other, but I don’t think there’s a good a priori reason to assume that we are “naturally” more chimp-like than bonobo-like.
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- lmm 3y agoYour own link below implies this is an open debate; that it is at least arguable that the CHLCA is a species that would be correctly classified in Pan i.e. a chimp.
- emporas 3y agoYep, indeed i read it as well, there is not enough evidence to claim that for sure, but taxonomy is difficult even for living species on earth today. I thought, let's suppose for the sake of the argument, that Pan are different species. I strongly recommend "You're Basically The Hagfish of Reptiles..." [1]. It will make your head spin. [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb_pvKbtWd8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb_pvKbtWd8
- ftxbro 3y ago> "As a Greek, living in Greece i second most of the terms. Know thyself (γνώθι σαυτόν) is a big one as well. Ancient Greeks were masters of psychology, i.e. what kind of animal humans are. Are we a good creature by nature or a bad one?" Cool! I hope we can learn from this rich vocabulary the Greeks have developed to describe and to understand our common nature. > "So there is a solution for every person on the planet to be genius 1000x or a 1.000.000x, never suffer psychological ailments, and that is to eat a lot of saffron every day." wait what
- emporas 3y ago>Cool! I hope we can learn from this rich vocabulary the Greeks have developed to describe and to understand our common nature. I have written an article recently, in which i renamed Tor -> Pandiodos, Torrent -> Logothece, Bitcoin -> Drattergon, /google emporas lichess blog/ it is somewhere there.
- stavros 3y agoYeah, that took a turn.
- rippercushions 3y agoFirst I'd heard of this, but there is some preliminary evidence that saffron has positive effects on depressive symptoms: https://academic.oup.com/nutritionreviews/article/77/8/557/5499264?login=false https://academic.oup.com/nutritionreviews/article/77/8/557/5... But if this was really significant, you'd expect saffron-producing/eating countries to stand out. Iran is #1, are they really all 1,000,000x happy geniuses?
- emporas 3y agoActually it is very expensive. I am talking about consuming a lot of grams every day, 50 to 100 grams, which is not a lot given it is roughly 1/1000 of the weight of a normal human, but it is the luxury of a millionaire for the moment. It is true that we most probably don't see any statistical correlation between saffron consumption and intelligence, especially in a country level, but i would argue, that the dosage makes the genius. Some of the virtues of the article, are a state of mind anyway, that's why i mention saffron. Many people are eating too much, only to feel better. Food has certainly the ability to alter our state of mind, which in some cases ends up in obesity. Virtues in the article, like apatheia, ataraxia, eudaimonia include in their meaning, not indulging in every pleasure in excess, and food is one of them. Well, that can be automated by producing more saffron and lowering it's price.
- robocat 3y ago> [take 50 to 100 grams of saffron] The dose is the poison - take care with spices. My friend died young of liver failure due to eating comfrey as a vegetable.
- korm 3y ago> 50 to 100 grams Saffron is toxic at that dose, very likely lethal. Please stay safe.
- emporas 3y agoI haven't seen anywhere mentioning any toxicity to the spice. Everywhere i looked no side effects. That costs too much money for me anyway, to eat a lot of it, and i guess for most people. A millionaire who values his brain too much, may try it. Someone like PG or Marc Andersen. [edit]I would love to see PG coming back, programming a new Common Lisp by hand, and writing a 1000 page manual just by himself, if he gets a supercharged brain. GPT and Artificial intelligence will be left back in the dust.
- andsoitis 3y ago> …saffron… superstition in Latin
- jdthedisciple 3y agoVouching for saffron, definitely great! Just... not too sure how we ended up here considering the topic of OP.
- emporas 3y agoWell, given our modern understanding of chemicals in the brain, many of the states of mind Ancient Greeks advocated for, can be summarized as: avoid short dopamine hits. The brain really loves dopamine hits, it stimulates electrical activity. I am sure that there is a way, to stimulate electrical activity, without using machines, a natural way to stimulate our brain 1000x and 1.000.000x just by using some kind of food or natural occurring substance. In my opinion that problem will be solved by saffron. How many people drive their car full speed without being in a hurry? Or how many people eat more than their energy requirements dictate to? I think there is a solution to that, and that is saffron.