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> People who go to four star hotels aren’t interested in trash continental breakfast and would rather pay for something good I've had very good breakfasts at m

> People who go to four star hotels aren’t interested in trash continental breakfast and would rather pay for something good I've had very good breakfasts at middle-tier hotels. Sometimes they were entirely free, and sometimes they would just give you $25 off or something. > Wi-Fi costs money because business people expense it Do hotels charge for wifi? Seems like everyone includes serviceable wifi, though some have a paid tier if you want a faster connection. I never have — is this common for people to pay for? > You want food on your flight? Bring/buy some and take it on the plane with you I'll remember that next time I get up for a flight at 4:30 AM, when no eateries are open. There is good food in many airports, but I can't exactly take ramen to-go. Airport food is also incredibly expensive.

dangus 4y ago
Charging extra for Wi-Fi definitely isn’t common anymore, but it used to be, and it was more common for higher end hotels. Again, we don’t need to be whining about the airplane food situation. We’re all supposed to be adults here. All sorts of food items can be taken through security. You can plan ahead and bring a sandwich or trail mix or something of that sort. You don’t need restaurants to be open to feed yourself. Maybe just eat before you get to the airport. It really isn’t hard. 40% of Americans have obesity and they’re over here acting like they’ll starve without complimentary meals on their flight. Everyone literally spends around 12 hours between dinner and breakfast without eating so I think you we can all handle a 5 hour flight without a full meal.
- gnicholas 4y ago
  No one is whining; we're talking about companies degrading their service while prices are trending ever upwards. If you love the current situation you're free to go read another article or join in another HN discussion. This one is about the increase in useless fees and removal of previously-standard services.
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  - dangus 4y ago
    > This one is about the increase in useless fees and removal of previously-standard services. Something that I would argue hasn't been happening in the airline industry. Instead, cost has gone down consistently over time. (Don’t mistake ultra low cost airlines for a degradation in service, that is an entirely new product that didn’t exist previously) I can think of ways in which airlines have actually increased level of service/value/reduced fees recently. For example, American Airlines eliminated change fees.
    - gnicholas 4y ago
      Airlines eliminated change fees during COVID because otherwise people wouldn't have been willing to commit to travel during the period of pandemic restrictions and conference uncertainty. Conferences would have remained remote/hybrid for longer, and people would have had more zoom calls instead of meetings.
- shjake 4y ago
  > without complimentary meals on their flight. Everyone literally spends around 12 hours between dinner and breakfast without eating What about second breakfast?

dangus 4y ago

Charging extra for Wi-Fi definitely isn’t common anymore, but it used to be, and it was more common for higher end hotels. Again, we don’t need to be whining about the airplane food situation. We’re all supposed to be adults here. All sorts of food items can be taken through security. You can plan ahead and bring a sandwich or trail mix or something of that sort. You don’t need restaurants to be open to feed yourself. Maybe just eat before you get to the airport. It really isn’t hard. 40% of Americans have obesity and they’re over here acting like they’ll starve without complimentary meals on their flight. Everyone literally spends around 12 hours between dinner and breakfast without eating so I think you we can all handle a 5 hour flight without a full meal.

gnicholas 4y ago
No one is whining; we're talking about companies degrading their service while prices are trending ever upwards. If you love the current situation you're free to go read another article or join in another HN discussion. This one is about the increase in useless fees and removal of previously-standard services.
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- dangus 4y ago
  > This one is about the increase in useless fees and removal of previously-standard services. Something that I would argue hasn't been happening in the airline industry. Instead, cost has gone down consistently over time. (Don’t mistake ultra low cost airlines for a degradation in service, that is an entirely new product that didn’t exist previously) I can think of ways in which airlines have actually increased level of service/value/reduced fees recently. For example, American Airlines eliminated change fees.
  - gnicholas 4y ago
    Airlines eliminated change fees during COVID because otherwise people wouldn't have been willing to commit to travel during the period of pandemic restrictions and conference uncertainty. Conferences would have remained remote/hybrid for longer, and people would have had more zoom calls instead of meetings.
shjake 4y ago
> without complimentary meals on their flight. Everyone literally spends around 12 hours between dinner and breakfast without eating What about second breakfast?