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Errrr..... what is it replaced with?

by andrewstuart 4y ago

frankreyes 4y ago
80x25 terminal, amber.
- em-bee 4y ago
  80x25 is DOS. UNIX terminals are 80x24, and i prefer green. https://github.com/Swordfish90/cool-retro-term https://github.com/Swordfish90/cool-retro-term
saghm 4y ago
Wayland (including XWayland), according to the link. The language is specific that the Xorg server is what's being deprecated, not the ability to run X11 applications via XWayland.
KryDos 4y ago
Wayland+Xwayland as they mentioned in the post. I hope it's gonna work. Last time I used wayland (few years ago) there were issues with many applications I used to.
- stbenjam 4y ago
  I’ve used Wayland exclusively for at least 3 years without a problem.
stonogo 4y ago
Nothing. You can use wayland, if you have the same hardware configuration as a wayland developer. Wayland's developers have decided it is feature complete, so if it doesn't do something you need it's apparetly your fault now. I don't know what the future is of OpenBSD's X Window fork, but it looks like I'd better find out. Wayland won't handle multiple GPUs driving a single monitor.
- KryDos 4y ago
  It sounds like wayland devs are bad guys. Is there a story behind it?
  - melvyn2 4y ago
    Wayland is a more versatile protocol. OP is misrepresenting a little bit, the base protocol v1 is finalized but desktop use will need and already does use many standard extensions. Nothing about being assholes, just a bureaucratic design.
    - magicalhippo 4y ago
      My understanding is that Wayland is more versatile in the sense of how a LEGO set is more versatile than a molded toy. Yes you can do a lot with LEGO, but a LEGO brick is just a LEGO brick at the end of the day. Similarly, Wayland lets almost all the "interesting" bits be up to the extension protocols[1]. [1]: https://wayland.app/protocols/ https://wayland.app/protocols/
      - bzzzt 4y ago
        Just like X11 uses Xexts and/or toolkit libraries for about anything.
  - kelipso 4y ago
    It seems like one of those politics things. Focus on PR to get the randoms behind it and get people to switch, doesn't matter the quality, how you talk about it is what matters.
    - yamtaddle 4y ago
      Do we have a name for this yet? We had "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" for MS' playbook, but Red Hat's run theirs enough times that it seems like we ought to have a name for it (and it's definitely different from Microsoft's EEE)
  - 4y ago
fulafel 4y ago
There seem to be a lot of users still. But lots of previous CentOS users seem to head to Ubuntu or one of the CentOS continuation candidates (Rocky, Alma etc).

Errrr..... what is it replaced with?

frankreyes 4y ago

80x25 terminal, amber.

em-bee 4y ago
80x25 is DOS. UNIX terminals are 80x24, and i prefer green. https://github.com/Swordfish90/cool-retro-term https://github.com/Swordfish90/cool-retro-term

saghm 4y ago

Wayland (including XWayland), according to the link. The language is specific that the Xorg server is what's being deprecated, not the ability to run X11 applications via XWayland.

KryDos 4y ago

Wayland+Xwayland as they mentioned in the post. I hope it's gonna work. Last time I used wayland (few years ago) there were issues with many applications I used to.

stbenjam 4y ago
I’ve used Wayland exclusively for at least 3 years without a problem.

stonogo 4y ago

Nothing. You can use wayland, if you have the same hardware configuration as a wayland developer. Wayland's developers have decided it is feature complete, so if it doesn't do something you need it's apparetly your fault now. I don't know what the future is of OpenBSD's X Window fork, but it looks like I'd better find out. Wayland won't handle multiple GPUs driving a single monitor.

KryDos 4y ago
It sounds like wayland devs are bad guys. Is there a story behind it?
- melvyn2 4y ago
  Wayland is a more versatile protocol. OP is misrepresenting a little bit, the base protocol v1 is finalized but desktop use will need and already does use many standard extensions. Nothing about being assholes, just a bureaucratic design.
  - magicalhippo 4y ago
    My understanding is that Wayland is more versatile in the sense of how a LEGO set is more versatile than a molded toy. Yes you can do a lot with LEGO, but a LEGO brick is just a LEGO brick at the end of the day. Similarly, Wayland lets almost all the "interesting" bits be up to the extension protocols[1]. [1]: https://wayland.app/protocols/ https://wayland.app/protocols/
    - bzzzt 4y ago
      Just like X11 uses Xexts and/or toolkit libraries for about anything.
- kelipso 4y ago
  It seems like one of those politics things. Focus on PR to get the randoms behind it and get people to switch, doesn't matter the quality, how you talk about it is what matters.
  - yamtaddle 4y ago
    Do we have a name for this yet? We had "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" for MS' playbook, but Red Hat's run theirs enough times that it seems like we ought to have a name for it (and it's definitely different from Microsoft's EEE)
- 4y ago

fulafel 4y ago

There seem to be a lot of users still. But lots of previous CentOS users seem to head to Ubuntu or one of the CentOS continuation candidates (Rocky, Alma etc).