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Plenty of other countries, especially western european ones, have since ~2015 introduced legislation (which later was either not/rarely enforced or walked back

by sebow 3y ago

Plenty of other countries, especially western european ones, have since ~2015 introduced legislation (which later was either not/rarely enforced or walked back upon, though not removed) in which a person is presumed guilty until proven innocent for all kinds of 'hate speech', especially online. I'm not sure if you're trolling by calling such shifts in society merely conspiracy theories. If it happened like 1-10 times, sure. But that's not the case, and since then euroskepticism was on the rise, only until ~2020 when covid came and suddenly everybody fell in line and forget we even had other (bigger) problems in our society than merely a flu-tier virus. Note: I have not read the entirety of the thread as per i don't really care, only saw the part of a presumed legal document where you can be detained upon mere suspicions of wrongthought/wrongsay, which reminded me of similar legislation that passed in my country (& not only).

j_french 3y ago
I'm not trolling, I'm pointing out that ascribing societal trends (which may or may not exist) to some hidden guiding hand through phrases like "falling into line" is suggestive of a conspiracy, i.e. a conspiracy theory. The phrase "conspiracy theory" has negative connotations I think because these theories are everywhere now, and so many are groundless variations of the same tropes. As for "cognitive deplatforming", making a judgement on how seriously to take a piece of writing based on the author's other writing seems reasonable to me. When I look at that Twitter account I see the same tired old tropes about the WEF, covid conspiracy, government thought control etc etc, poorly written with nothing insightful or original. So I come to the same conclusion as another commenter: supremely ignorable.
1827163 3y ago
Pressure groups are influencing the World Economic Forum and other globalist organizations to get countries to adopt these laws. So it's not a "conspiracy" of elites, rather that these pressure groups have managed to gain so much influence over the decades, that they in effect get to set our laws. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entryism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entryism
- j_french 3y ago
  So you're saying the World Economic Forum has pressured Ireland to pass this law? Can you provide a reliable source for this claim?

by sebow 3y ago

j_french 3y ago

I'm not trolling, I'm pointing out that ascribing societal trends (which may or may not exist) to some hidden guiding hand through phrases like "falling into line" is suggestive of a conspiracy, i.e. a conspiracy theory. The phrase "conspiracy theory" has negative connotations I think because these theories are everywhere now, and so many are groundless variations of the same tropes. As for "cognitive deplatforming", making a judgement on how seriously to take a piece of writing based on the author's other writing seems reasonable to me. When I look at that Twitter account I see the same tired old tropes about the WEF, covid conspiracy, government thought control etc etc, poorly written with nothing insightful or original. So I come to the same conclusion as another commenter: supremely ignorable.

1827163 3y ago

Pressure groups are influencing the World Economic Forum and other globalist organizations to get countries to adopt these laws. So it's not a "conspiracy" of elites, rather that these pressure groups have managed to gain so much influence over the decades, that they in effect get to set our laws. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entryism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entryism

j_french 3y ago
So you're saying the World Economic Forum has pressured Ireland to pass this law? Can you provide a reliable source for this claim?