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This kind of comment makes me genuinely angry. It's exact opposite. Repeating this lie led to painful death. My wife is an ICU physician. I traveled with he
by kxyvr 3y ago
This kind of comment makes me genuinely angry. It's exact opposite. Repeating this lie led to painful death.
My wife is an ICU physician. I traveled with her around the country during the COVID pandemic to help provide moral support for what was a very difficult job. One of the most common, heart breaking stories were the patients who were wrongly told by their friends or the internet they were going to die if they were intubated. Now, it is your right to refuse intubation just as it is your right to refuse resuscitation. That said, my wife would recommend intubation if it was warranted and these patients would flat refuse because of information like this. Then, she would watch them slowly and painfully decompensate day by day. Weaker and weaker. Then, when they were at death's door, they would universally reverse their refusal of intubation and ask her to do everything. At this point, my wife would hold their cell phone while they video chatted their husbands, and wives, and parents, and children. Tell them how much they loved them. Then, they would crash and my wife would frantically try to intubate them and keep them alive. At this point, they had no reserves. Most of them died.
No physician in their right mind recommends intubation without cause. It's a procedure. It carries risk. However, it is vastly easier to do in a controlled setting before someone has no reserves and is crashing. It means that they could give the patients lungs a break, so they can heal.
I listened to these stories day after day after day and tried to support my wife as best as I could. Physicians are not perfect. They do make mistakes. They also have vastly more experience dealing with the intricacies of care. That said, comments like this one absolutely killed people. People who didn't need to die. That was and still is wrong.
- heretohelp3546 3y agoSadly if you look back through this person's comment history you'll find as bad or worse. I personally am of the opinion that HN is no place for these kind of comments, but day by day they're out there fighting the good fight around here. It makes me sad to see that no amount of comments like yours appear to prevent this human from continuing their crusade here of comment-thread closed-minded misinformation-laden horse-shit.
- realjhol 3y agoWhat you're describing is clearly extremely strongly felt. Nevertheless, there is a growing body of evidence that the use ventilators is linked to excess mortality: https://www.jci.org/articles/view/170682 https://www.jci.org/articles/view/170682