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Kindle Unlimited works[1] works that way. They have pool of royalties derived as a percent of revenue for the month, that then distributed by views on a proport

Kindle Unlimited works[1] works that way. They have pool of royalties derived as a percent of revenue for the month, that then distributed by views on a proportional basis. They have a specific algorithm that defines a "normalized page view" which prevents gaming from people doing things like using larger fonts, or adding filler pages that people skip. I could imagine a version of this being adapted to other "unlimited consumption" model platforms like video streaming. That leaves room for the contract to negotiate the royalty percentage, maybe with some kind of a fixed floor, and to discuss how views are "normalized." Does minutes watched make sense? Should it be normalized by account, rather than overall time? etc ... [1] https://kdp.amazon.com/en_US/help/topic/G201541130 https://kdp.amazon.com/en_US/help/topic/G201541130

1659447091 3y ago
> Does minutes watched make sense? Should it be normalized by account, rather than overall time? etc ... And then incentivize people to leave their netflix accounts watching shows while they are away or whatever for pennies to recoup some of their monthly sub fees. If the royalties are enough, it would seem possible to instead just farm views for profit at netflix expense, on top of royalties, who then passes on the cost. Seems like a losing game all around
- interactivecode 3y ago
  Do youtubers have tvs running with their videos on it to farm views in a meaningful way?
- jacobr1 3y ago
  That wouldn't pay off for paid accounts. The cost of paying for a netflix account, will be higher whatever share of royalties is allocated from that account to the rights-holder. If for no other reason than netflix themselves is taking a cut. There might be some scenerio where gaming the system could be profitable with ad-supported accounts, but the remedy for that is probably contractual. If detected, it is a from of fraud and would have some sort of contractual or maybe even tort remedy.
ketzo 3y ago
Someone else in the thread mentioned that this is roughly how Spotify works, too -- take a pool of revenue, and distribute it based on how many streams an artist got. One way or another, it's clear that there are existing, practical models for distributing revenue in this way. Seems like TV / streaming video is just behind the times.

1659447091 3y ago

> Does minutes watched make sense? Should it be normalized by account, rather than overall time? etc ... And then incentivize people to leave their netflix accounts watching shows while they are away or whatever for pennies to recoup some of their monthly sub fees. If the royalties are enough, it would seem possible to instead just farm views for profit at netflix expense, on top of royalties, who then passes on the cost. Seems like a losing game all around

interactivecode 3y ago
Do youtubers have tvs running with their videos on it to farm views in a meaningful way?
jacobr1 3y ago
That wouldn't pay off for paid accounts. The cost of paying for a netflix account, will be higher whatever share of royalties is allocated from that account to the rights-holder. If for no other reason than netflix themselves is taking a cut. There might be some scenerio where gaming the system could be profitable with ad-supported accounts, but the remedy for that is probably contractual. If detected, it is a from of fraud and would have some sort of contractual or maybe even tort remedy.

ketzo 3y ago

Someone else in the thread mentioned that this is roughly how Spotify works, too -- take a pool of revenue, and distribute it based on how many streams an artist got. One way or another, it's clear that there are existing, practical models for distributing revenue in this way. Seems like TV / streaming video is just behind the times.