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"where Constitutional rights are^H^H^H^H were practically always in effect." The "Patriot Act" (which was supposed to be temporary) has permanently eroded thos

"where Constitutional rights are^H^H^H^H were practically always in effect." The "Patriot Act" (which was supposed to be temporary) has permanently eroded those rights.

philwelch 3y ago
The Patriot Act expired in 2020, and many of its provisions were overturned by court rulings.
- AnthonyMouse 3y ago
  > The Patriot Act was written with “sunset” provisions requiring Congress to re-authorize the program every few years. Although the Act expired in March, 2020 without being reauthorized, federal law enforcement agencies retain most of the authorities granted by the act. The surveillance infrastructure that the Patriot Act created exists to this day. The Patriot Act is a prominent example of the use of terrorism to justify expanding government surveillance. https://epic.org/issues/surveillance-oversight/patriot-act/ https://epic.org/issues/surveillance-oversight/patriot-act/
  - philwelch 3y ago
    > Although the Act expired in March, 2020 without being reauthorized, federal law enforcement agencies retain most of the authorities granted by the act. By what statute do they maintain those authorities if the authorizing legislation has expired?
    - ROTMetro 3y ago
      Any investigation opened prior to the expiration can be continued under it. Surprisingly they opened quite a few 'open ended' investigations.
    - palunon 3y ago
      https://www.justice.gov/archive/opa/pr/2006/March/06_opa_113.html https://www.justice.gov/archive/opa/pr/2006/March/06_opa_113... > The reauthorizing legislation makes permanent 14 of the 16 sunsetted USA PATRIOT Act provisions and places four-year sunsets on the other two
      - philwelch 3y ago
        Thanks! > and places four-year sunsets on the other two It looks like those were sections 206 and 215, which were somewhat weakened by the same act. Confusingly, there's a third provision, the "lone wolf" provision, which was extended during the Obama administration; that seems to be part of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 and got rolled into the "USA Freedom Act" reauthorization in 2015.
- BlueTemplar 3y ago
  You will note that US companies are still effectively, theoretically banned in the EU because violating fundamental human rights of persons located in the EU - and will likely still be as long as the Patriot Act-like laws, the NSA, or the EU still exist : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Schrems#Schrems_I https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Schrems#Schrems_I

"where Constitutional rights are^H^H^H^H were practically always in effect." The "Patriot Act" (which was supposed to be temporary) has permanently eroded those rights.

philwelch 3y ago

The Patriot Act expired in 2020, and many of its provisions were overturned by court rulings.

AnthonyMouse 3y ago
> The Patriot Act was written with “sunset” provisions requiring Congress to re-authorize the program every few years. Although the Act expired in March, 2020 without being reauthorized, federal law enforcement agencies retain most of the authorities granted by the act. The surveillance infrastructure that the Patriot Act created exists to this day. The Patriot Act is a prominent example of the use of terrorism to justify expanding government surveillance. https://epic.org/issues/surveillance-oversight/patriot-act/ https://epic.org/issues/surveillance-oversight/patriot-act/
- philwelch 3y ago
  > Although the Act expired in March, 2020 without being reauthorized, federal law enforcement agencies retain most of the authorities granted by the act. By what statute do they maintain those authorities if the authorizing legislation has expired?
  - ROTMetro 3y ago
    Any investigation opened prior to the expiration can be continued under it. Surprisingly they opened quite a few 'open ended' investigations.
  - palunon 3y ago
    https://www.justice.gov/archive/opa/pr/2006/March/06_opa_113.html https://www.justice.gov/archive/opa/pr/2006/March/06_opa_113... > The reauthorizing legislation makes permanent 14 of the 16 sunsetted USA PATRIOT Act provisions and places four-year sunsets on the other two
    - philwelch 3y ago
      Thanks! > and places four-year sunsets on the other two It looks like those were sections 206 and 215, which were somewhat weakened by the same act. Confusingly, there's a third provision, the "lone wolf" provision, which was extended during the Obama administration; that seems to be part of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 and got rolled into the "USA Freedom Act" reauthorization in 2015.
BlueTemplar 3y ago
You will note that US companies are still effectively, theoretically banned in the EU because violating fundamental human rights of persons located in the EU - and will likely still be as long as the Patriot Act-like laws, the NSA, or the EU still exist : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Schrems#Schrems_I https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Schrems#Schrems_I