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Yeah, I can't see why someone would choose this when you can get a Garmin forerunner 45 for $199 (or even cheaper as it's on sale right now) with better battery

Yeah, I can't see why someone would choose this when you can get a Garmin forerunner 45 for $199 (or even cheaper as it's on sale right now) with better battery life and more features. The smartwatch market has categorically left casio behind and it'll be really hard to try to catch up now.

ghaff 3y ago
Yeah, some of the Garmin models have a place if you're focused on getting a fitness/hiking/etc. watch and not really on a smartwatch as such--especially if you're not bought into the Apple ecosystem. You can get better battery life and maybe get a better price (though at the high end the Fenix is pretty pricey).
- InitialLastName 3y ago
  I have a Garmin watch and am baffled when I hear people say they charge their Apple Watches every day. I had to add my watch charger cable to my vacation checklist because I often forget I need to charge it.
  - ghaff 3y ago
    The Ultra is a bit better but battery life is definitely a downside. However, as soon as you get below the better part of a week of battery life you pretty much need to remember to charge now and then. I'm not sure there's a big difference between charge every couple of days and charge once a week. On the other hand I never have to remember to charge my cheap Timex.
  - salad-tycoon 3y ago
    Having had both, I ditched the AW and now have fenix 6 sapphire for less money (~$300 new) than used AW 8. The thing is indestructible (practically), battery lasts for weeks, and it has less smart features and more onboard “stuff”, which I like. Instinct 2 is now $200 at Costco. I think the watch technology is pretty mature. I feel cutting edge with a 3 year old watch. Sensor maybe not as good as AW but for anything that really matter you would wear a chest strap hrm anyways.
    - scruple 3y ago
      That's a great price for the Instinct 2. I've had my eye on it for a while and $100 off might get me to pull the trigger. Thanks for mentioning that.
criddell 3y ago
I think you underestimate the number of G-Shock collectors out there and how well loved the brand is. Casio has sold more than 100 million G-Shocks. Price and features matter for some, but not so much to watch collectors in general.
- chrisfosterelli 3y ago
  For the smart watch market, it's entirely price and features that matter. It could be that there's enough g-shock fans to sustain a product here, but it's not going to grab any of the smart watch market. I say this as someone who loves their F91-W. It's a great watch and I like it. But I don't want to use it for the things I want to use a smartwatch for.
- MegaDeKay 3y ago
  Indeed. When I was researching which G-Shock to buy, it was common to read about collectors buying the same watch in different colors.
usrusr 3y ago
I'm not disagreeing, but the observation that Garmin is doing the Instinct series which is basically an elaborate G-shock counter suggests that Casio is onto something.

ghaff 3y ago

Yeah, some of the Garmin models have a place if you're focused on getting a fitness/hiking/etc. watch and not really on a smartwatch as such--especially if you're not bought into the Apple ecosystem. You can get better battery life and maybe get a better price (though at the high end the Fenix is pretty pricey).

InitialLastName 3y ago
I have a Garmin watch and am baffled when I hear people say they charge their Apple Watches every day. I had to add my watch charger cable to my vacation checklist because I often forget I need to charge it.
- ghaff 3y ago
  The Ultra is a bit better but battery life is definitely a downside. However, as soon as you get below the better part of a week of battery life you pretty much need to remember to charge now and then. I'm not sure there's a big difference between charge every couple of days and charge once a week. On the other hand I never have to remember to charge my cheap Timex.
- salad-tycoon 3y ago
  Having had both, I ditched the AW and now have fenix 6 sapphire for less money (~$300 new) than used AW 8. The thing is indestructible (practically), battery lasts for weeks, and it has less smart features and more onboard “stuff”, which I like. Instinct 2 is now $200 at Costco. I think the watch technology is pretty mature. I feel cutting edge with a 3 year old watch. Sensor maybe not as good as AW but for anything that really matter you would wear a chest strap hrm anyways.
  - scruple 3y ago
    That's a great price for the Instinct 2. I've had my eye on it for a while and $100 off might get me to pull the trigger. Thanks for mentioning that.

criddell 3y ago

I think you underestimate the number of G-Shock collectors out there and how well loved the brand is. Casio has sold more than 100 million G-Shocks. Price and features matter for some, but not so much to watch collectors in general.

chrisfosterelli 3y ago
For the smart watch market, it's entirely price and features that matter. It could be that there's enough g-shock fans to sustain a product here, but it's not going to grab any of the smart watch market. I say this as someone who loves their F91-W. It's a great watch and I like it. But I don't want to use it for the things I want to use a smartwatch for.
MegaDeKay 3y ago
Indeed. When I was researching which G-Shock to buy, it was common to read about collectors buying the same watch in different colors.

usrusr 3y ago

I'm not disagreeing, but the observation that Garmin is doing the Instinct series which is basically an elaborate G-shock counter suggests that Casio is onto something.