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I have had several of my dash cam videos thrown out because "judges" thought they were faked. Even when I uploaded the video to YouTube within 24 hours of the

I have had several of my dash cam videos thrown out because "judges" thought they were faked. Even when I uploaded the video to YouTube within 24 hours of the wreck the "judge" said I had years to fake it.

diydsp 3y ago
What other elements did they have in them? e.g. was it your video vs police?
PrimeMcFly 3y ago
Couldn't you appeal and get expert testimony to verify the videos?
- SoftTalker 3y ago
  Depending on the case, the cost may have exceeded the damages at stake.
- mandmandam 3y ago
  The way I've seen this work is that the Judge throws that in with 17 other bullshit arguments. And unless you can take a thorough and comprehensive swipe at all eighteen, which takes about 160 pages of filings, then your odds of even being heard on appeal are small. Something like 90% of appeals that do get heard lose anyway. This all costs a lot of money when lawyers cost $150 - $700 per hour. Expert testimony costs about the same. Appeals end up costing from $10k to $50k. And how demoralized are you, to hear your judge saying things like that against you. US judges have little fear of accountability. The statistics there are abysmal. No large media outlet will comment on such a decision. Few higher courts would ever inflict any punishment on the judge. To get punished as a judge you need to either provably ruin hundreds of lives , like in the kids-for-cash scandal [0], or one very wealthy and connected life. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal
  - sidewndr46 3y ago
    Could you provide a reference to proceedings that went this way, where the evidence was rejected and the case ultimately dropped as a result?
    - mandmandam 3y ago
      OJ's bloody glove is probably the most famous example. Bill Cosby's case was also very famous, and recent. Only one victim was allowed to testify - inexplicable. The very recent Donziger case was pretty shocking; some major evidence was ignored there, along with established procedures. Then you have things going on at even higher levels, like the Supreme Court deciding not to investigate itself, or the CFR blocking witnesses that would have said the WMD story was baloney. Those were cases where the entire world was watching. Imagine what goes on where it's only a million or two at stake.
      - sidewndr46 3y ago
        I can't see the Donziger case as anything other than a guy getting railroaded.
        mandmandam 3y ago
        He certainly was railroaded. He had plenty of ironclad evidence and precedent on his side, and even a little media attention. It didn't matter. There wasn't even a hint of repercussions (not even mild official rebuke) for the people that stitched Donziger up via the Justice system (Kaplan, Preska, Chevron, etc).
lostmsu 3y ago
What country/state is that?
sidewndr46 3y ago
I'm guessing these were not criminal trials however?
fomine3 3y ago
I came up an idea: send hash of dash cam video file immediately by 4G connection, to prove it genuine
smart_pig_w 3y ago
i wanna hear about this. lets chat!

diydsp 3y ago

What other elements did they have in them? e.g. was it your video vs police?

PrimeMcFly 3y ago

Couldn't you appeal and get expert testimony to verify the videos?

SoftTalker 3y ago
Depending on the case, the cost may have exceeded the damages at stake.
mandmandam 3y ago
The way I've seen this work is that the Judge throws that in with 17 other bullshit arguments. And unless you can take a thorough and comprehensive swipe at all eighteen, which takes about 160 pages of filings, then your odds of even being heard on appeal are small. Something like 90% of appeals that do get heard lose anyway. This all costs a lot of money when lawyers cost $150 - $700 per hour. Expert testimony costs about the same. Appeals end up costing from $10k to $50k. And how demoralized are you, to hear your judge saying things like that against you. US judges have little fear of accountability. The statistics there are abysmal. No large media outlet will comment on such a decision. Few higher courts would ever inflict any punishment on the judge. To get punished as a judge you need to either provably ruin hundreds of lives , like in the kids-for-cash scandal [0], or one very wealthy and connected life. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal
- sidewndr46 3y ago
  Could you provide a reference to proceedings that went this way, where the evidence was rejected and the case ultimately dropped as a result?
  - mandmandam 3y ago
    OJ's bloody glove is probably the most famous example. Bill Cosby's case was also very famous, and recent. Only one victim was allowed to testify - inexplicable. The very recent Donziger case was pretty shocking; some major evidence was ignored there, along with established procedures. Then you have things going on at even higher levels, like the Supreme Court deciding not to investigate itself, or the CFR blocking witnesses that would have said the WMD story was baloney. Those were cases where the entire world was watching. Imagine what goes on where it's only a million or two at stake.
    - sidewndr46 3y ago
      I can't see the Donziger case as anything other than a guy getting railroaded.
      - mandmandam 3y ago
        He certainly was railroaded. He had plenty of ironclad evidence and precedent on his side, and even a little media attention. It didn't matter. There wasn't even a hint of repercussions (not even mild official rebuke) for the people that stitched Donziger up via the Justice system (Kaplan, Preska, Chevron, etc).

lostmsu 3y ago

What country/state is that?

sidewndr46 3y ago

I'm guessing these were not criminal trials however?

fomine3 3y ago

I came up an idea: send hash of dash cam video file immediately by 4G connection, to prove it genuine

smart_pig_w 3y ago

i wanna hear about this. lets chat!