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Tipping has officially gotten out of control. Just saw the other day that some Apple Store employees want to start asking for tips: https://daringfireball.net/

Tipping has officially gotten out of control. Just saw the other day that some Apple Store employees want to start asking for tips: https://daringfireball.net/linked/2023/05/04/apple-store-maryland-union-tips https://daringfireball.net/linked/2023/05/04/apple-store-mar...

ghostpepper 3y ago
So on a $3500 laptop purchase a 10% tip would be $350 for the genius who radio'd to the back to have someone else bring the product out, and then punched it in correctly on the pin pad? If we generously assume 5 minutes of work, that works out to an hourly rate of $4200/hour.
- Ekaros 3y ago
  And on other side, if I were to spend hour with sales clerk and in the end get the cheapest possible item, and pay something generous like 30%. How much would that end up being?
- bityard 3y ago
  Did you click the link? > The workers’ negotiators also want Apple to adopt a tipping system, letting patrons offer gratuities in increments of 3%, 5% or a custom amount for in-store credit-card transactions. Not 10%, unless you have money to burn/launder. But also: > “All monies collected through this manner would be dispersed to members of the bargaining unit biweekly based on any hours worked.” So as in most places these days, by tipping you're not rewarding the employee who provided good service, your tip gets spread out among all employees whether they are working hard or hardly working. Which as far as I am concerned, entirely defeats the purpose of the tipping system. I have no reason to buy anything from an Apple store but if I did, and someone provided exceptional service beyond what they were expected to, I would not tip them. I would instead saunter down to the Starbucks pagoda, buy a gift card, and then hand it directly to the person.
_boffin_ 3y ago
that to me like a throwaway during negotiations between the union and Apple.

ghostpepper 3y ago

So on a $3500 laptop purchase a 10% tip would be $350 for the genius who radio'd to the back to have someone else bring the product out, and then punched it in correctly on the pin pad? If we generously assume 5 minutes of work, that works out to an hourly rate of $4200/hour.

Ekaros 3y ago
And on other side, if I were to spend hour with sales clerk and in the end get the cheapest possible item, and pay something generous like 30%. How much would that end up being?
bityard 3y ago
Did you click the link? > The workers’ negotiators also want Apple to adopt a tipping system, letting patrons offer gratuities in increments of 3%, 5% or a custom amount for in-store credit-card transactions. Not 10%, unless you have money to burn/launder. But also: > “All monies collected through this manner would be dispersed to members of the bargaining unit biweekly based on any hours worked.” So as in most places these days, by tipping you're not rewarding the employee who provided good service, your tip gets spread out among all employees whether they are working hard or hardly working. Which as far as I am concerned, entirely defeats the purpose of the tipping system. I have no reason to buy anything from an Apple store but if I did, and someone provided exceptional service beyond what they were expected to, I would not tip them. I would instead saunter down to the Starbucks pagoda, buy a gift card, and then hand it directly to the person.

_boffin_ 3y ago

that to me like a throwaway during negotiations between the union and Apple.