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For heaven's sake is 2023 how are people still living in this Chomsky Khmer-Rouge Genocidal denying state of mind. Why do all of the worst totalitarian ruthless

by jasmer 3y ago

For heaven's sake is 2023 how are people still living in this Chomsky Khmer-Rouge Genocidal denying state of mind. Why do all of the worst totalitarian ruthless killers have so much lingering support on the Left? Allende (fyi backed by the Soviets) got 30% of the vote and tried to overthrow the government through constitutional coup (Edit: not really a coup, but a de facto coup by completely ignoring the Judiciary and near super-majority in Congress against him, and by using military and other tactics) and to socialize / take control over vast parts of the economy which completely crashed the system. And so the result was Pinochet, which is bad, but not nearly as bad as otherwise, but that's what happens as a result. I don't suggest that what's happening in Chile is the same thing, but it obviously has echoes.

enterprise_cog 3y ago
Pinochet was the ruthless killer, bud. You anti communist ideologues are so twisted you view someone who mass murdered people as preferable to nationalization of the economy.
- nickpp 3y ago
  Nationalizing the economy usually leads to lots of dead people anyway. Of starvation, if history is any guide.
  - TuringTest 3y ago
    It's up to the people of a democratic country to decide if they want to try. Overthrowing the government because it may potentially go that way it's not what the West nominally defend as their values. Chile of Allende may actually have had a chance to avoid that destiny had not it been for US actively destroying their economy; they were for once trying modern social and economic projects based on scientific models that might have made a difference, but that was thrown away with the dictatorship.
    - jasmer 3y ago
      30% of the country to not get to grab the property of everyone, the suggestion is a bit repulsive and anti-democratic. Democracy exists precisely to protect minorities, not to have aa 50%+1 majority mob rule. Allende and the other Communist/Anarchists (often Soviet backed) are among the worst people in history, causing mass death and harm on a scale never seen before under the guise of their deluded egos, and it continues to this day. Allende would have created something akin to Venezuela or Cuba, thankfully he was thwarted, unfortunately, it came at a cost.

by jasmer 3y ago

enterprise_cog 3y ago

Pinochet was the ruthless killer, bud. You anti communist ideologues are so twisted you view someone who mass murdered people as preferable to nationalization of the economy.

nickpp 3y ago
Nationalizing the economy usually leads to lots of dead people anyway. Of starvation, if history is any guide.
- TuringTest 3y ago
  It's up to the people of a democratic country to decide if they want to try. Overthrowing the government because it may potentially go that way it's not what the West nominally defend as their values. Chile of Allende may actually have had a chance to avoid that destiny had not it been for US actively destroying their economy; they were for once trying modern social and economic projects based on scientific models that might have made a difference, but that was thrown away with the dictatorship.
  - jasmer 3y ago
    30% of the country to not get to grab the property of everyone, the suggestion is a bit repulsive and anti-democratic. Democracy exists precisely to protect minorities, not to have aa 50%+1 majority mob rule. Allende and the other Communist/Anarchists (often Soviet backed) are among the worst people in history, causing mass death and harm on a scale never seen before under the guise of their deluded egos, and it continues to this day. Allende would have created something akin to Venezuela or Cuba, thankfully he was thwarted, unfortunately, it came at a cost.