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I think the whole "tipping at checkout" thing makes no sense at all. The tip amount depends on quality of service -- a terrible coffee and burnt pastries will m

by theamk 4y ago

I think the whole "tipping at checkout" thing makes no sense at all. The tip amount depends on quality of service -- a terrible coffee and burnt pastries will means no tip, while delicious food, good service and clean tables means big tip. But how can you tell what the experience is going to be if you just entered the store and only ordering? You can't. That's why you should never tip at the self-order kiosk, but you should drop a cash tip into the tip cup when leaving, if the food and service was good.

_ZeD_ 4y ago
>>> a terrible coffee and burnt pastries will means no tip, while delicious food, good service and clean tables means big tip. what? NO a terrible coffee and burnt pastries means REFUND. delicious food, good service and clean tables means WHAT I JUST PAID FOR. did you really pay the normal price of a good (let's say a chair) if it's broken? why do you pay for a substandard service then?
- Broken_Hippo 4y ago
  In the US, we know that most wait staff are paid far less than minimum wage. The expectation is that tips will make up for the difference. You simply didn't pay for it all. It has been like this for literal decades.
  - harshalizee 4y ago
    No that's not how it works. If the tips don't work out to minimum wage, the employer pays the difference. That's how it is in all the states. Some cities, like Seattle, has a minimum wage at $15 for wait staff. So tipping is on top of that.
    - Broken_Hippo 4y ago
      The only thing you can count on is that the place pays the federal minimum wage and that legally, the place is supposed to make up tips. Tips make wage theft really easy for the employer. Most places aren't Seattle. Most states and cities aren't setting higher minimum wages for wait staff, and most aren't putting the minimum on par with other folks. As you travel through the country, you probably aren't going to see if the folks in the area are paid well or see how much of a jerk you are for not tipping in a country that expects it instead of including wages in the price of goods.
    - SoftTalker 4y ago
      That's interesting. Did Seattle consider banning tipping also when they raised the minimum wage for wait staff? It's probably impossible to ban someone voluntarily leaving extra money on the table.
      - harshalizee 4y ago
        Absolutely not. We still have the 15%, 20%, 25% kiosk tip option nonsense.
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eatsyourtacos 4y ago
>while delicious food, good service and clean tables means big tip. Uh no- that just means the person DID THEIR JOB. If I hire a plumber and he floods my house.. oh ok just no tip. But if it doesn't flood, big tip!! Just fucking pay people a salary and stop dicking around with tipping. It literally exists so companies can offload most of the risk to their employees.

by theamk 4y ago

_ZeD_ 4y ago

>>> a terrible coffee and burnt pastries will means no tip, while delicious food, good service and clean tables means big tip. what? NO a terrible coffee and burnt pastries means REFUND. delicious food, good service and clean tables means WHAT I JUST PAID FOR. did you really pay the normal price of a good (let's say a chair) if it's broken? why do you pay for a substandard service then?

Broken_Hippo 4y ago
In the US, we know that most wait staff are paid far less than minimum wage. The expectation is that tips will make up for the difference. You simply didn't pay for it all. It has been like this for literal decades.
- harshalizee 4y ago
  No that's not how it works. If the tips don't work out to minimum wage, the employer pays the difference. That's how it is in all the states. Some cities, like Seattle, has a minimum wage at $15 for wait staff. So tipping is on top of that.
  - Broken_Hippo 4y ago
    The only thing you can count on is that the place pays the federal minimum wage and that legally, the place is supposed to make up tips. Tips make wage theft really easy for the employer. Most places aren't Seattle. Most states and cities aren't setting higher minimum wages for wait staff, and most aren't putting the minimum on par with other folks. As you travel through the country, you probably aren't going to see if the folks in the area are paid well or see how much of a jerk you are for not tipping in a country that expects it instead of including wages in the price of goods.
  - SoftTalker 4y ago
    That's interesting. Did Seattle consider banning tipping also when they raised the minimum wage for wait staff? It's probably impossible to ban someone voluntarily leaving extra money on the table.
    - harshalizee 4y ago
      Absolutely not. We still have the 15%, 20%, 25% kiosk tip option nonsense.
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eatsyourtacos 4y ago

>while delicious food, good service and clean tables means big tip. Uh no- that just means the person DID THEIR JOB. If I hire a plumber and he floods my house.. oh ok just no tip. But if it doesn't flood, big tip!! Just fucking pay people a salary and stop dicking around with tipping. It literally exists so companies can offload most of the risk to their employees.