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The current President, youngest President ever in Vietnam, was the head of Central propaganda department [0], and I believe his achievement was integrating thos

by NhanH 3y ago

The current President, youngest President ever in Vietnam, was the head of Central propaganda department [0], and I believe his achievement was integrating those censorship tools into the government usage (this is my wild guess, and absolutely not official info). An impressive feat, technological or otherwise, but naturally a bit unfortunate for Vietnamese. That said, the Viet Tan group is full of crap. They are not a reform group. And whatever writings their members put out are mostly even worse than breitbart. So if you believe fake news should be squatted, well then you agree with the Vietnam government. This is the other unfortunate things with Vietnam: we really need better dissenting group. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Propaganda_Department_of_the_Communist_Party_of_Vietnam https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Propaganda_Departmen...

eunos 3y ago
I thought Prez in Vietname is more or less powerless position. Real power lies in the Central Military Commision and Party General Secretary just like China.
- NhanH 3y ago
  Party Secretary is #1 (always). Prime Minister and President is #2 and #3, with exact power ordering depends on the specific person in the role. Head of Congress is #4 with some distance with the other 3 roles. Supposedly, the top 3 role has almost the same power and that was how we keep dictator in check. All three positions are in the Central Military Commission. China uses a different system, they have a designated paramount leader who holds two roles: President and Party Secretary, Vietnam doesn’t want to do that and kinda spreads the power out.
  - sdo72 3y ago
    Yes, the order of power is correct. However, I think he is a bit different since he is seen as the #1 candidate to be succeeding the Party Secretary position in the near future.
  - eunos 3y ago
    Nguyễn Phú Trọng was the President, General Secretary and Secretary of the Central Military Commission at the same time (2011-now, pres 2018-2021).
    - NhanH 3y ago
      The President of that term died in office. Trọng gave it up the next term. There was questions at the time whether he would, but in the end, he did. Why wasn't a new President nominated/ elected at the time? I'm pretty sure it was something as simple as dumb succession planning, unless you believe there is something more sinister with the death. Electing a new President in Vietnam is hard, there is a requirement of serving at least two terms in the Politburo before you can take one of the top three seats. Naturally, since it is a kind of up-or-out deal (you are old and very close to retirement age or exceeding it), the people who qualify are the one who are in the seats. And if one of them dies, you literally just runs out of candidates. Not to mention you need a party-wide electors meeting in addition to Congress meeting. General Secretary is always the Secretary of the Central Military Commission, as the Vietnam People's Army swears absolute loyalty to the Communist party. That has nothing to do with the relative power between high ranking party official (it has obvious effect on the party's control of the military, but that is a different topic).
      - eunos 3y ago
        Well in CN as Zhao Ziyang learned, Chairman of Central Military Comission > General Secretary of Party.

by NhanH 3y ago

eunos 3y ago

I thought Prez in Vietname is more or less powerless position. Real power lies in the Central Military Commision and Party General Secretary just like China.

NhanH 3y ago
Party Secretary is #1 (always). Prime Minister and President is #2 and #3, with exact power ordering depends on the specific person in the role. Head of Congress is #4 with some distance with the other 3 roles. Supposedly, the top 3 role has almost the same power and that was how we keep dictator in check. All three positions are in the Central Military Commission. China uses a different system, they have a designated paramount leader who holds two roles: President and Party Secretary, Vietnam doesn’t want to do that and kinda spreads the power out.
- sdo72 3y ago
  Yes, the order of power is correct. However, I think he is a bit different since he is seen as the #1 candidate to be succeeding the Party Secretary position in the near future.
- eunos 3y ago
  Nguyễn Phú Trọng was the President, General Secretary and Secretary of the Central Military Commission at the same time (2011-now, pres 2018-2021).
  - NhanH 3y ago
    The President of that term died in office. Trọng gave it up the next term. There was questions at the time whether he would, but in the end, he did. Why wasn't a new President nominated/ elected at the time? I'm pretty sure it was something as simple as dumb succession planning, unless you believe there is something more sinister with the death. Electing a new President in Vietnam is hard, there is a requirement of serving at least two terms in the Politburo before you can take one of the top three seats. Naturally, since it is a kind of up-or-out deal (you are old and very close to retirement age or exceeding it), the people who qualify are the one who are in the seats. And if one of them dies, you literally just runs out of candidates. Not to mention you need a party-wide electors meeting in addition to Congress meeting. General Secretary is always the Secretary of the Central Military Commission, as the Vietnam People's Army swears absolute loyalty to the Communist party. That has nothing to do with the relative power between high ranking party official (it has obvious effect on the party's control of the military, but that is a different topic).
    - eunos 3y ago
      Well in CN as Zhao Ziyang learned, Chairman of Central Military Comission > General Secretary of Party.