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Not defending Pinochet at all, but the idea that a democratically elected communist government (in full control of a country) stays democratic for long is not b

Not defending Pinochet at all, but the idea that a democratically elected communist government (in full control of a country) stays democratic for long is not borne out by any evidence anywhere on earth. In the middle of the Cold War, with the Soviet Union already shipping weapons in, the economy was struggling, Allende's coalition partners abandoned the communists in favour of a "Confederation of Democracy" (interesting name, huh). An authoritarian slide was not inevitable, but it was the well-trodden path and the default outcome. Soviet-aligned communists don't govern democratic countries for long, full stop. (Again, is does not excuse overthrowing/murdering him or the US involvement in that).

digging 3y ago
> but the idea that a democratically elected communist government (in full control of a country) stays democratic for long is not borne out by any evidence anywhere on earth Nor do we have almost any evidence of the opposite, since the US obliterated most experiments in anything other than plunder capitalism. I also contest that non-communist governments stay democratic for long. The US, for example, is barely a democracy in a meaningful sense, and is increasingly moving in plutocratic, fascist directions.
- nickpp 3y ago
  While the democratic government of Russia (who never had a democracy) is busy bombing innocent civilians any taking away their country. Why is US moving in fascist directions again?! Please elaborate or give some examples at least.
  - digging 3y ago
    1. I didn't say anything about Russia 2. Both of those things are common practice for the US 3. The US is moving toward fascism because of fascists. The mask is off at this point, it's not even a question of whether or not there's fascism in American politics. (Honorable mention: We can thank Russia for funding and promoting fascism in the US in order to divide us, though. Russia sure does suck for democracy.)

digging 3y ago

> but the idea that a democratically elected communist government (in full control of a country) stays democratic for long is not borne out by any evidence anywhere on earth Nor do we have almost any evidence of the opposite, since the US obliterated most experiments in anything other than plunder capitalism. I also contest that non-communist governments stay democratic for long. The US, for example, is barely a democracy in a meaningful sense, and is increasingly moving in plutocratic, fascist directions.

nickpp 3y ago
While the democratic government of Russia (who never had a democracy) is busy bombing innocent civilians any taking away their country. Why is US moving in fascist directions again?! Please elaborate or give some examples at least.
- digging 3y ago
  1. I didn't say anything about Russia 2. Both of those things are common practice for the US 3. The US is moving toward fascism because of fascists. The mask is off at this point, it's not even a question of whether or not there's fascism in American politics. (Honorable mention: We can thank Russia for funding and promoting fascism in the US in order to divide us, though. Russia sure does suck for democracy.)