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Installing state officials in South America is historically a US tactic, not a Chinese tactic.

rodolphoarruda 3y ago
It has been a Russian tactic as well before the fall of the Berlin wall. The presence of Russians in Brazil during the military regime (mid 1900s) is well documented in history.
- tomi-b 3y ago
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- moate 3y ago
  It's a "wealthier nation" tactic going back to Spanish/Portuguese first contact. Fuck, it's called "Latin America" and I'm pretty sure Latin isn't native language. Rich people love pillaging and raping resource laden countries in the global south, assuming history is any indicator. Edited for spelling
  - inglor_cz 3y ago
    "I'm pretty sure Latin isn't native language." Latin isn't native language anywhere except Latium. English isn't native language anywhere except England (even excluding places like Cornwall that used to speak Celtic languages until the modern era). Arabic isn't native language anywhere except the Arabian peninsula. Heck, Quechua isn't native language anywhere but a very small region around Cuzco and was deliberately introduced by the Incas to make management of their huge, multiethnic empire easier. I don't think that ancient imperial language policies in itself are particularly shameful. Possibly the opposite. You can pillage and rape people without even talking to them, but if you want to trade and develop deeper relations, mutual understanding is a must.
    - nordsieck 3y ago
      > English isn't native language anywhere except England (even excluding places like Cornwall that used to speak Celtic languages until the modern era) I mean, if you really want to play the game, the Angles (along with the Saxons) aren't native to England (i.e. Angle-land); they were a germanic tribe. Of course, old english is a pretty far cry from the modern incarnation of the language.
- whitemary 3y ago
  How does "presence" translate to "installing state officials"?
  - rodolphoarruda 3y ago
    Presence uses bribery to corrupt state officials.
randomopining 3y ago
What's the cutoff for the whataboutism? That's like 50+ years ago. Chinese have done the same thing and would do it even more if given the chance.
29athrowaway 3y ago
China only installs clandestine police stations, infiltrates companies, telecommunications and creates social media apps that push dangerous challenges that leave people with disabilities.

It has been a Russian tactic as well before the fall of the Berlin wall. The presence of Russians in Brazil during the military regime (mid 1900s) is well documented in history.

tomi-b 3y ago
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moate 3y ago
It's a "wealthier nation" tactic going back to Spanish/Portuguese first contact. Fuck, it's called "Latin America" and I'm pretty sure Latin isn't native language. Rich people love pillaging and raping resource laden countries in the global south, assuming history is any indicator. Edited for spelling
- inglor_cz 3y ago
  "I'm pretty sure Latin isn't native language." Latin isn't native language anywhere except Latium. English isn't native language anywhere except England (even excluding places like Cornwall that used to speak Celtic languages until the modern era). Arabic isn't native language anywhere except the Arabian peninsula. Heck, Quechua isn't native language anywhere but a very small region around Cuzco and was deliberately introduced by the Incas to make management of their huge, multiethnic empire easier. I don't think that ancient imperial language policies in itself are particularly shameful. Possibly the opposite. You can pillage and rape people without even talking to them, but if you want to trade and develop deeper relations, mutual understanding is a must.
  - nordsieck 3y ago
    > English isn't native language anywhere except England (even excluding places like Cornwall that used to speak Celtic languages until the modern era) I mean, if you really want to play the game, the Angles (along with the Saxons) aren't native to England (i.e. Angle-land); they were a germanic tribe. Of course, old english is a pretty far cry from the modern incarnation of the language.
whitemary 3y ago
How does "presence" translate to "installing state officials"?
- rodolphoarruda 3y ago
  Presence uses bribery to corrupt state officials.

randomopining 3y ago

What's the cutoff for the whataboutism? That's like 50+ years ago. Chinese have done the same thing and would do it even more if given the chance.

29athrowaway 3y ago

China only installs clandestine police stations, infiltrates companies, telecommunications and creates social media apps that push dangerous challenges that leave people with disabilities.