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It's almost as if half the elected officials are paid by the ultra wealthy to block all legislation that isn't about social wedge issues. As if gay rights is wh

It's almost as if half the elected officials are paid by the ultra wealthy to block all legislation that isn't about social wedge issues. As if gay rights is what's causing the planet to heat and inflation to eat away at our earnings. And then the billionaires use their propaganda networks to point to the lack of progress and say, "see, it's impossible, let's not tax billionaires. In fact, this study the billionaires just did shows that taxing the billionaires will just make things worse, and the real problem is kids knowing that gay people exist." And, well, propaganda works.

rsynnott 3y ago
They seem to have moved on to trans people now. Rather lazily; I'm a little shocked that the new wave of transphobes haven't noticed that the stuff they're being fed is literally just what the right-wing media was saying about gay people in the 90s, with a word-replace done. If we _must_ have absurd moral panics, we should at least try to be original about them.
- sootfe 3y ago
  Many of whom you slur as "transphobes" are feminists critical of this concept of gender identity and how it has been used to enable male access to female-only spaces. This isn't at all related to the homophobic rhetoric of the 1990s, indeed many such feminists are homosexual themselves and who have found their single-sex social spaces effectively eradicated by believers in this ideology of gender identity. In many ways this a continuation of the radical feminist movement of the 1970s onwards, where woman at the time were critical of the burgeoning transsexual movement, with those males demanding access to women's spaces.
  - rsynnott 3y ago
    Yes, yes, brand new account, tell us more of these feminists who split their time legislating against trans people and abortion. Obviously, some TERFs exist, but for the most part the modern (post-2010) transphobia movement is a conventional far-right movement and tends to be allied with the homophobes, the anti-abortion crowd, and so forth. There has, lately, been a certain level of discomfort amongst actual ye olde TERFs about the nature of their new allies, but when you make a deal with the devil, you have to expect a certain number of meme-obsessed Nazis to show up to your events.
    - sootfe 3y ago
      The whole reason that gender self-id laws were halted in the UK a few years back was because of a grassroots feminist movement resurging to oppose it. Mostly left-wing and socialist, and nothing to do with homophobia or anti-abortion at all. > you have to expect a certain number of meme-obsessed Nazis to show up to your events If this is some reference to the recent Let Women Speak event in Melbourne, the neo-Nazis absolutely did not show up to support the feminists. Quite the opposite, they were railing against the organiser for "promoting lesbianism". Not allies at all.

rsynnott 3y ago

They seem to have moved on to trans people now. Rather lazily; I'm a little shocked that the new wave of transphobes haven't noticed that the stuff they're being fed is literally just what the right-wing media was saying about gay people in the 90s, with a word-replace done. If we _must_ have absurd moral panics, we should at least try to be original about them.

sootfe 3y ago
Many of whom you slur as "transphobes" are feminists critical of this concept of gender identity and how it has been used to enable male access to female-only spaces. This isn't at all related to the homophobic rhetoric of the 1990s, indeed many such feminists are homosexual themselves and who have found their single-sex social spaces effectively eradicated by believers in this ideology of gender identity. In many ways this a continuation of the radical feminist movement of the 1970s onwards, where woman at the time were critical of the burgeoning transsexual movement, with those males demanding access to women's spaces.
- rsynnott 3y ago
  Yes, yes, brand new account, tell us more of these feminists who split their time legislating against trans people and abortion. Obviously, some TERFs exist, but for the most part the modern (post-2010) transphobia movement is a conventional far-right movement and tends to be allied with the homophobes, the anti-abortion crowd, and so forth. There has, lately, been a certain level of discomfort amongst actual ye olde TERFs about the nature of their new allies, but when you make a deal with the devil, you have to expect a certain number of meme-obsessed Nazis to show up to your events.
  - sootfe 3y ago
    The whole reason that gender self-id laws were halted in the UK a few years back was because of a grassroots feminist movement resurging to oppose it. Mostly left-wing and socialist, and nothing to do with homophobia or anti-abortion at all. > you have to expect a certain number of meme-obsessed Nazis to show up to your events If this is some reference to the recent Let Women Speak event in Melbourne, the neo-Nazis absolutely did not show up to support the feminists. Quite the opposite, they were railing against the organiser for "promoting lesbianism". Not allies at all.