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The Average Webpage Is Now the Size of the Original Doom (2016)

45 points by robin_reala 4y ago

perilunar 4y ago
> "A compressed copy of the installer for the shareware version of Doom takes up about 2.39MB of space. Today's average webpage, meanwhile, requires users to download about 2.3MB worth of data, according to HTTP Archive, a site that tracks website performance and the technologies they use." Old news. TFA constantly downloads video and ads, and was over 40 MB before I stopped it. Disable JS and the page is only 2.6 MB. "I Turned Off JavaScript for a Whole Week and It Was Glorious" says one article in a sidebar. Indeed.
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hilbert42 4y ago
JavaScript turned off is my web browsing default, has been for years. I don't understand how people can tolerate the web with JS on as everything is so tediously slow. JS off also has the advantage of nuking most ads. Web browsing is safer too.
- v0idzer0 3y ago
  I don’t know what your network is like but the bloated web is still extremely fast for me
  - hilbert42 3y ago
    Either 4G or 100Mb fiber. 'Clean' sites with little or no JS, HN for instance, can be blinding fast but others where JS and other web crap can exceed 5, even 7MB just to display a page of about 4k of text are often a disaster with JS enabled. Disable JS and most of the other crap including ads are also disabled/don't download. The other thing one notices with JS disabled is that 'hesitations' disappear, those delays and jitters just go away. (I'm so used to working without JS that I only have to work with a JS-enabled system for a second or two to know that JS is affecting its performance). Over the years I've noticed that those who don't ever think to turn JS off don't notice the hesitations etc. probably because they've become to accept such performance as the norm. If you look at the trends in modern web development, everything is aimed trying to speed these delays up rather than tackle the real problem of the huge and unecessary size of web pages. Most users do not want or need this extra junk. In my case, killing JS is my first line of defense.
methods21 4y ago
But can you run Doom on it?
v0idzer0 3y ago
In fairness you can now run doom on a website so webpages have become more capable as they’ve become more bloated http://browser-doom.io http://browser-doom.io

45 points by robin_reala 4y ago

> "A compressed copy of the installer for the shareware version of Doom takes up about 2.39MB of space. Today's average webpage, meanwhile, requires users to download about 2.3MB worth of data, according to HTTP Archive, a site that tracks website performance and the technologies they use." Old news. TFA constantly downloads video and ads, and was over 40 MB before I stopped it. Disable JS and the page is only 2.6 MB. "I Turned Off JavaScript for a Whole Week and It Was Glorious" says one article in a sidebar. Indeed.

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hilbert42 4y ago

JavaScript turned off is my web browsing default, has been for years. I don't understand how people can tolerate the web with JS on as everything is so tediously slow. JS off also has the advantage of nuking most ads. Web browsing is safer too.

v0idzer0 3y ago
I don’t know what your network is like but the bloated web is still extremely fast for me
- hilbert42 3y ago
  Either 4G or 100Mb fiber. 'Clean' sites with little or no JS, HN for instance, can be blinding fast but others where JS and other web crap can exceed 5, even 7MB just to display a page of about 4k of text are often a disaster with JS enabled. Disable JS and most of the other crap including ads are also disabled/don't download. The other thing one notices with JS disabled is that 'hesitations' disappear, those delays and jitters just go away. (I'm so used to working without JS that I only have to work with a JS-enabled system for a second or two to know that JS is affecting its performance). Over the years I've noticed that those who don't ever think to turn JS off don't notice the hesitations etc. probably because they've become to accept such performance as the norm. If you look at the trends in modern web development, everything is aimed trying to speed these delays up rather than tackle the real problem of the huge and unecessary size of web pages. Most users do not want or need this extra junk. In my case, killing JS is my first line of defense.

methods21 4y ago

But can you run Doom on it?

v0idzer0 3y ago

In fairness you can now run doom on a website so webpages have become more capable as they’ve become more bloated http://browser-doom.io http://browser-doom.io