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Humans don't learn an algorithm by memorizing a particular implementation character by character.

by eptcyka 3y ago

vadiml 3y ago
There are people who do it... I personally know a guy whit photographic memory
- j16sdiz 3y ago
  He don't get an exemption from copyright law, or do he?
remix2000 3y ago
Neither does copilot.
- eptcyka 3y ago
  But it does though. There have been many times where this was the case.
  - Kiro 3y ago
    It only happens if you bait it really hard and push it into a corner. That's not representative at all. I use Copilot to write highly niched code that's based on my own repo. It's simply amazing at understanding the context and suggest things I was about to write anyway. Nothing it produces is just copypasted character by character. Not even close.
    - bamboozled 3y ago
      As others have pointed out, it means the model contains copyrighted material. So I guess that’s totally illegal. Like if I ripped a Windows ISO, zipped it up and shared it with half the world. You know what would happen to me don’t you ?
      - Kiro 3y ago
        Not the same thing at all. The data isn't just sitting there in a store inside the model that you can query. No-one would be able to look at the raw data and find any copyrighted material, even if all it was trained on was copyrighted code (which I agree is an issue).
        ChatGTP 3y ago
        There’s a lot of misconceptions here but LLMs and stable diffusion have spat out copyrighted material verbatim. So that’s not accurate.
        Kiro 3y ago
        What is not accurate? They are still not storing any material internally, even if the patterns they have learned can cause them to output copyrighted material verbatim. People need to break out of the mental model that an LLM is just a bunch of pointers fetching data from an internal data store.
        ChatGTP 3y ago
        Have a read through other comments on this thread, you'll see some good examples.
ignoramous 3y ago
That's all the more reason for the utility of solutions like Copilot? Humans are limited in both time and memory. Though, GitHub would do well to also bake-in approp attributions if a significant portion of the generated code is a copypasta.
golergka 3y ago
And airplanes don't flap their wings, but we still agree that they're flying, just as birds do.

Humans don't learn an algorithm by memorizing a particular implementation character by character.

vadiml 3y ago

There are people who do it... I personally know a guy whit photographic memory

j16sdiz 3y ago
He don't get an exemption from copyright law, or do he?

remix2000 3y ago

Neither does copilot.

eptcyka 3y ago
But it does though. There have been many times where this was the case.
- Kiro 3y ago
  It only happens if you bait it really hard and push it into a corner. That's not representative at all. I use Copilot to write highly niched code that's based on my own repo. It's simply amazing at understanding the context and suggest things I was about to write anyway. Nothing it produces is just copypasted character by character. Not even close.
  - bamboozled 3y ago
    As others have pointed out, it means the model contains copyrighted material. So I guess that’s totally illegal. Like if I ripped a Windows ISO, zipped it up and shared it with half the world. You know what would happen to me don’t you ?
    - Kiro 3y ago
      Not the same thing at all. The data isn't just sitting there in a store inside the model that you can query. No-one would be able to look at the raw data and find any copyrighted material, even if all it was trained on was copyrighted code (which I agree is an issue).
      - ChatGTP 3y ago
        There’s a lot of misconceptions here but LLMs and stable diffusion have spat out copyrighted material verbatim. So that’s not accurate.
        Kiro 3y ago
        What is not accurate? They are still not storing any material internally, even if the patterns they have learned can cause them to output copyrighted material verbatim. People need to break out of the mental model that an LLM is just a bunch of pointers fetching data from an internal data store.
        ChatGTP 3y ago
        Have a read through other comments on this thread, you'll see some good examples.

ignoramous 3y ago

That's all the more reason for the utility of solutions like Copilot? Humans are limited in both time and memory. Though, GitHub would do well to also bake-in approp attributions if a significant portion of the generated code is a copypasta.

golergka 3y ago

And airplanes don't flap their wings, but we still agree that they're flying, just as birds do.