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Intel Skulltrail

13 points by Kye 4y ago

gaudat 4y ago
Reminds me of that 28-core 5GHz monster that needs compressor cooling a while ago...
senectus1 4y ago
would love to see it benchmarked against a run of the mill 3060 intel box today :-)
- smoldesu 4y ago
  Good news, everyone! I've home-cooked a benchmark using Cinebench R10 through Wine so we can compare it against this old Anandtech post[0]! Cinebench R10: 1x CPU suite (higher is better) - 12700k: 8899 - Duel Intel Extreme: 4815 All CPUs suite - 12700k: 63393 - Duel Intel Extreme: 29108 Obviously these tests aren't conclusive. I'm using Wine, and Cinebench R10 isn't optimized for the modern Intel chipsets. Still was fun to test :) [0] https://www.anandtech.com/show/2435/11 https://www.anandtech.com/show/2435/11
Titan2189 4y ago
Just somehow need to make Linus (LinusTechTips) aware this existed, then we'll have a video about it within a few weeks.
- winocm 4y ago
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl7Dx895ND4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl7Dx895ND4
- PlatinumHarp 4y ago
  Linus looked at it a couple years back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNo7qoLRtkQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNo7qoLRtkQ
Kye 4y ago
Support for dual GPU cards and two CPUs in consumer hardware! A rare double feature of getting the future wrong.
- rektide 4y ago
  ML folks definitely load their systems up with GPUs. Having gobs of slots makes complete sense. It's not SLI, that doesn't seem to be happening at the moment, but scaling out pretty great! But all the companies making PCIe switches have gotten bought out & consolidated & now making a high-PCIe-slot motherboard costs absurd bazonga-bucks. The market has priced itself out of reasonability.
  - Kye 4y ago
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    - rektide 4y ago
      I get your defensiveness & you are not wrong, but a good number of the people buying flagship consumer GPUs are doing so as prosumer ML hackers. It seems semi likely we'll see multi-GPU again on real consumer, in the next 10 years.
      - Kye 4y ago
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        smoldesu 4y ago
        You're thinking of SLI/Crossfire, I think. Multi-GPU has always and will always be a thing, as long as your CPU exposes enough PCI bandwidth to address both cards.
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rektide 4y ago
This has been slowly running around in my head since this morning, and I'm more and more impressed. > Skulltrail was one of the first platforms to support SLI on chipsets not designed by Nvidia. It achieves this by including two NVIDIA nForce 100 PCIe 1.1 switch (two x16 to one x16) chips. The implementation of SLI supports Quad SLI technology, which is achieved through the use of two dual-GPU graphics cards from NVIDIA, including the GeForce 9800 GX2. This gives a total of four graphics processors. Nvidia specifically (via licensing) forbid SLI unless GPUs were connected to a Nvidia chip[1]. So Intel just bought two Nvidia PCIe switches & put all the big x16 slots behind these switches, and the GPU processors would happily run in SLI. It's basically a cheezy hardware hack to on the sly subvert a shitty fascist meanspirited company, that was playing gross monopolistic anti-PC market games. Fuck Nvidia man! Fuck yeah Intel, fuck these jackasses! Skulltrail indeed! A great historical case of Nvidia being absolute shits, and finally someone actually having a one up on jerk-ish behavior! Go Intel! [1] LTT, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNo7qoLRtkQ#t=7m https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNo7qoLRtkQ#t=7m

Intel Skulltrail

13 points by Kye 4y ago

gaudat 4y ago

Reminds me of that 28-core 5GHz monster that needs compressor cooling a while ago...

senectus1 4y ago

would love to see it benchmarked against a run of the mill 3060 intel box today :-)

smoldesu 4y ago
Good news, everyone! I've home-cooked a benchmark using Cinebench R10 through Wine so we can compare it against this old Anandtech post[0]! Cinebench R10: 1x CPU suite (higher is better) - 12700k: 8899 - Duel Intel Extreme: 4815 All CPUs suite - 12700k: 63393 - Duel Intel Extreme: 29108 Obviously these tests aren't conclusive. I'm using Wine, and Cinebench R10 isn't optimized for the modern Intel chipsets. Still was fun to test :) [0] https://www.anandtech.com/show/2435/11 https://www.anandtech.com/show/2435/11

Titan2189 4y ago

Just somehow need to make Linus (LinusTechTips) aware this existed, then we'll have a video about it within a few weeks.

winocm 4y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl7Dx895ND4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl7Dx895ND4
PlatinumHarp 4y ago
Linus looked at it a couple years back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNo7qoLRtkQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNo7qoLRtkQ

Kye 4y ago

Support for dual GPU cards and two CPUs in consumer hardware! A rare double feature of getting the future wrong.

rektide 4y ago
ML folks definitely load their systems up with GPUs. Having gobs of slots makes complete sense. It's not SLI, that doesn't seem to be happening at the moment, but scaling out pretty great! But all the companies making PCIe switches have gotten bought out & consolidated & now making a high-PCIe-slot motherboard costs absurd bazonga-bucks. The market has priced itself out of reasonability.
- Kye 4y ago
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  - rektide 4y ago
    I get your defensiveness & you are not wrong, but a good number of the people buying flagship consumer GPUs are doing so as prosumer ML hackers. It seems semi likely we'll see multi-GPU again on real consumer, in the next 10 years.
    - Kye 4y ago
      .
      - smoldesu 4y ago
        You're thinking of SLI/Crossfire, I think. Multi-GPU has always and will always be a thing, as long as your CPU exposes enough PCI bandwidth to address both cards.
        deleted 4y ago
        [deleted]

rektide 4y ago

This has been slowly running around in my head since this morning, and I'm more and more impressed. > Skulltrail was one of the first platforms to support SLI on chipsets not designed by Nvidia. It achieves this by including two NVIDIA nForce 100 PCIe 1.1 switch (two x16 to one x16) chips. The implementation of SLI supports Quad SLI technology, which is achieved through the use of two dual-GPU graphics cards from NVIDIA, including the GeForce 9800 GX2. This gives a total of four graphics processors. Nvidia specifically (via licensing) forbid SLI unless GPUs were connected to a Nvidia chip[1]. So Intel just bought two Nvidia PCIe switches & put all the big x16 slots behind these switches, and the GPU processors would happily run in SLI. It's basically a cheezy hardware hack to on the sly subvert a shitty fascist meanspirited company, that was playing gross monopolistic anti-PC market games. Fuck Nvidia man! Fuck yeah Intel, fuck these jackasses! Skulltrail indeed! A great historical case of Nvidia being absolute shits, and finally someone actually having a one up on jerk-ish behavior! Go Intel! [1] LTT, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNo7qoLRtkQ#t=7m https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNo7qoLRtkQ#t=7m