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Source? I don’t know anyone who would recommend Intel. There are plenty of better AMD and Nvidia cards in all of intels price points.

onli 3y ago
That's not true anymore :) The ARC A750 sits between the Radeon RX 6600 and 6650 XT. The 6600 is a bit cheaper, but significantly slower. The 6650 XT is faster, but also more expensive. When (and if) Intel improves the driver more it will definitely be the better deal. Nvidia has no card in this price segment that is remotely worth considering. So while the initial reviews were negative, the ARC A750 does get recommended as an option now. But: One has to be okay with the fact that picking the ARC is a bit of a gamble, needs a processor/platform that supports resizable bar, and under Linux the card is slower than the 6600 even with rBar. So there are definitely reasons to get the AMD cards instead, but the A750 is absolutely worth considering by now. Sources: The GN revisit, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-6sHUNBxVg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-6sHUNBxVg ; my benchmark collection, https://www.pc-kombo.com/us/benchmark/games/gpu/compare?ids%5B%5D=Radeon+RX+6650+XT&ids%5B%5D=Intel+Arc+A750&ids%5B%5D=Radeon+RX+6600 https://www.pc-kombo.com/us/benchmark/games/gpu/compare?ids%...
- ummonk 3y ago
  Yeah I checked benchmarks for the A750 when speccing out a budget gaming computer for a friend in India, and the A750 handily beats out competitor cards at that price point.
- girvo 3y ago
  Also, the A750 or A770 handily destroy the RX 6600/6650 in path tracing! They are much more capable cards, just held back by nascent drivers, sadly.
goosedragons 3y ago
Is there a better new card for $120 than the A380? It's better than the GeForce 1630 which is more expensive. I guess maybe one of those sketch Chinese brand Radeon 580s? Are those even new?
agloe_dreams 3y ago
Nvidia actually doesn’t have anything competitive in the A750 and a770 8gb price points. AMD’s cards lack performant ray tracing.
tlamponi 3y ago
> I don’t know anyone who would recommend Intel. I'd recommend them to some friends, and actually a colleague of mine got the A770 and is very happy with that (besides the relatively high idle power consumption). In fact, if you want a lot of VRAM for relatively cheap, the A770 is your best choice, e.g., compare a list of GPUs with 16 GB or more video memory, sorted ascending by price here in Austria (includes German merchants): https://geizhals.at/?cat=gra16_512&xf=132_16384&sort=p#productlist https://geizhals.at/?cat=gra16_512&xf=132_16384&sort=p#produ... Cheapest is the Intel A770 -> 379 € (= 315.83 € without VAT) The cheapest after that is the RX 6800 -> 527€ (439.16 € w/o VAT) The cheapest that actually can also do AV1 encoding is the RX 7900 XT -> 846 € (705 € w/o VAT) Sure, the RX 6800 packs quite a bit of additional performance (but not all features the Intel Arc's got, like AV1 encoding), but 150€ more might make it unaffordable for quite a few people, and depending on what they do with the card the A770 can be enough for a lot of midrange games (or AAA on midrange resolution/details), video processing, rendering, ... tldr; while not a hard recommendation for all general cases, the Arc series def. has its use, especially on lower budget and especially for use cases that do well with lots of VRAM or AV1 encoding/decoding for a relative low price.

onli 3y ago

That's not true anymore :) The ARC A750 sits between the Radeon RX 6600 and 6650 XT. The 6600 is a bit cheaper, but significantly slower. The 6650 XT is faster, but also more expensive. When (and if) Intel improves the driver more it will definitely be the better deal. Nvidia has no card in this price segment that is remotely worth considering. So while the initial reviews were negative, the ARC A750 does get recommended as an option now. But: One has to be okay with the fact that picking the ARC is a bit of a gamble, needs a processor/platform that supports resizable bar, and under Linux the card is slower than the 6600 even with rBar. So there are definitely reasons to get the AMD cards instead, but the A750 is absolutely worth considering by now. Sources: The GN revisit, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-6sHUNBxVg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-6sHUNBxVg ; my benchmark collection, https://www.pc-kombo.com/us/benchmark/games/gpu/compare?ids%5B%5D=Radeon+RX+6650+XT&ids%5B%5D=Intel+Arc+A750&ids%5B%5D=Radeon+RX+6600 https://www.pc-kombo.com/us/benchmark/games/gpu/compare?ids%...

ummonk 3y ago
Yeah I checked benchmarks for the A750 when speccing out a budget gaming computer for a friend in India, and the A750 handily beats out competitor cards at that price point.
girvo 3y ago
Also, the A750 or A770 handily destroy the RX 6600/6650 in path tracing! They are much more capable cards, just held back by nascent drivers, sadly.

goosedragons 3y ago

Is there a better new card for $120 than the A380? It's better than the GeForce 1630 which is more expensive. I guess maybe one of those sketch Chinese brand Radeon 580s? Are those even new?

agloe_dreams 3y ago

Nvidia actually doesn’t have anything competitive in the A750 and a770 8gb price points. AMD’s cards lack performant ray tracing.

tlamponi 3y ago

> I don’t know anyone who would recommend Intel. I'd recommend them to some friends, and actually a colleague of mine got the A770 and is very happy with that (besides the relatively high idle power consumption). In fact, if you want a lot of VRAM for relatively cheap, the A770 is your best choice, e.g., compare a list of GPUs with 16 GB or more video memory, sorted ascending by price here in Austria (includes German merchants): https://geizhals.at/?cat=gra16_512&xf=132_16384&sort=p#productlist https://geizhals.at/?cat=gra16_512&xf=132_16384&sort=p#produ... Cheapest is the Intel A770 -> 379 € (= 315.83 € without VAT) The cheapest after that is the RX 6800 -> 527€ (439.16 € w/o VAT) The cheapest that actually can also do AV1 encoding is the RX 7900 XT -> 846 € (705 € w/o VAT) Sure, the RX 6800 packs quite a bit of additional performance (but not all features the Intel Arc's got, like AV1 encoding), but 150€ more might make it unaffordable for quite a few people, and depending on what they do with the card the A770 can be enough for a lot of midrange games (or AAA on midrange resolution/details), video processing, rendering, ... tldr; while not a hard recommendation for all general cases, the Arc series def. has its use, especially on lower budget and especially for use cases that do well with lots of VRAM or AV1 encoding/decoding for a relative low price.