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What exactly are you asking for here? Because you've already been informed that AMD and Intel systems using LPDDR5 at the same speed and bus width are now avail

What exactly are you asking for here? Because you've already been informed that AMD and Intel systems using LPDDR5 at the same speed and bus width are now available. On paper, every new laptop using soldered LPDDR is now over 100GB/s for DRAM bandwidth. Are you asking for synthetic benchmark results comparing achievable throughput against theoretical bandwidth, or are you just being obtuse?

dmitrygr 4y ago
I am asking for a name of one that has been demonstrated to actually do that. Not promise. Not “on paper”. Actually do. Extra credit if it actually exists in a store to actually buy. Today.
- wmf 4y ago
  Such information is no longer available due to the demise of tech journalism.
  - dmitrygr 4y ago
    And yet somehow you are sure such things exist?
    - wmf 4y ago
      Look, you're probably right but there's no need to be so annoying about it.
      - dmitrygr 4y ago
        Stop confidently making nonsensical claims, like this, then: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35855612 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35855612
        wtallis 4y ago
        There's nothing nonsensical about the claim that there are AMD and Intel systems using 128-bit LPDDR5-6400. AMD's mobile processors started supporting that config last year, so in spite of this year's mobile processors being a bit late the market is already full of systems so equipped. Intel's mobile processors as of earlier this year also support this memory configuration and speed, and systems have been shipping from multiple vendors for well over a month; they're not exotic or hard to find. There's even at least one announced but not yet shipping Intel-based system that will use LPDDR5-7500!
  - 2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago
    It's called "overfitting specs". They ask for a very specific set of specs that only Apple laptops have and ignore anything else. If you can find anything that competes they'll move the goalposts and complain about touchpad or something else.
- wtallis 4y ago
  Sorry, still not clear exactly where your goalposts are. Is there a public benchmark where M2 scores above 100GB/s that you'd like to see comparable runs for a recent x86 mobile platform?
  - rsynnott 4y ago
    Not sure about the M2, but here's one for the M1 Pro/Max: https://www.anandtech.com/show/17024/apple-m1-max-performance-review/2 https://www.anandtech.com/show/17024/apple-m1-max-performanc... For whatever reason, it isn't so easy to find real-world memory bandwidth results for consumer stuff; it's a fairly standard benchmark for server hardware, but less so for consumer. Here's one for an old Ryzen 9: https://www.anandtech.com/show/14605/the-and-ryzen-3700x-3900x-review-raising-the-bar/2 https://www.anandtech.com/show/14605/the-and-ryzen-3700x-390..., but couldn't find anything current offhand.

dmitrygr 4y ago

I am asking for a name of one that has been demonstrated to actually do that. Not promise. Not “on paper”. Actually do. Extra credit if it actually exists in a store to actually buy. Today.

wmf 4y ago
Such information is no longer available due to the demise of tech journalism.
- dmitrygr 4y ago
  And yet somehow you are sure such things exist?
  - wmf 4y ago
    Look, you're probably right but there's no need to be so annoying about it.
    - dmitrygr 4y ago
      Stop confidently making nonsensical claims, like this, then: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35855612 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35855612
      - wtallis 4y ago
        There's nothing nonsensical about the claim that there are AMD and Intel systems using 128-bit LPDDR5-6400. AMD's mobile processors started supporting that config last year, so in spite of this year's mobile processors being a bit late the market is already full of systems so equipped. Intel's mobile processors as of earlier this year also support this memory configuration and speed, and systems have been shipping from multiple vendors for well over a month; they're not exotic or hard to find. There's even at least one announced but not yet shipping Intel-based system that will use LPDDR5-7500!
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago
  It's called "overfitting specs". They ask for a very specific set of specs that only Apple laptops have and ignore anything else. If you can find anything that competes they'll move the goalposts and complain about touchpad or something else.
wtallis 4y ago
Sorry, still not clear exactly where your goalposts are. Is there a public benchmark where M2 scores above 100GB/s that you'd like to see comparable runs for a recent x86 mobile platform?
- rsynnott 4y ago
  Not sure about the M2, but here's one for the M1 Pro/Max: https://www.anandtech.com/show/17024/apple-m1-max-performance-review/2 https://www.anandtech.com/show/17024/apple-m1-max-performanc... For whatever reason, it isn't so easy to find real-world memory bandwidth results for consumer stuff; it's a fairly standard benchmark for server hardware, but less so for consumer. Here's one for an old Ryzen 9: https://www.anandtech.com/show/14605/the-and-ryzen-3700x-3900x-review-raising-the-bar/2 https://www.anandtech.com/show/14605/the-and-ryzen-3700x-390..., but couldn't find anything current offhand.