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> I will tell you this much, if there's anybody whose job could go to the AIs, it's the fucking CEOs. Don't give them any ideas, it would be equally horrible t

> I will tell you this much, if there's anybody whose job could go to the AIs, it's the fucking CEOs. Don't give them any ideas, it would be equally horrible to work under a ChatGPT CEO as any other out of touch CEO.

hyperdimension 3y ago
"As a large language model, I take full responsibility in making this difficult decision to layoff..."
gremlinsinc 3y ago
not even close. I'm trying to build a startup and chatGPT is basically my CEO and CMO, frees me up to be the CTO/engineer, although I do have to be his mouth piece. he actually listens to suggestions and since I'm founder, I can replace him with another ai, like Claude from anthropic lol. plus he doesn't take 10k more money than he's worth. just 20 bucks per month.
- flashgordon 3y ago
  You mean 10x not 10k? 10k more is sweeter deal compared to 10x!
- capableweb 3y ago
  Since you're the one that is controlling ChatGPT, it sounds more like a executive assistant than actual CEO. If you want a really fun experiment, make ChatGPT have more power and control over the company than you, and we'll see how you like the experience :)
  - petemir 3y ago
    "The Dice Man" for the modern times
- than3 3y ago
  This line of thinking is what will ultimately end us as a species. There are a number of systems that must run in a loop. When that loop stalls, because labor is part of that loop, and illiquidity occurs, and people can't get food. You get a deflationary spiral, and everything breaks down from there. The only offset would be printing a massive amount of money, but then you have rational pricing (that cost vs the product) go out the window. Rational pricing is required to properly allocate resources in a scarce world. Its a very fine balance keeping enough liquidity in the economy so this doesn't happen, and we've all see how well that's turned out. This leads to the economic calculation problem where the policy maker has to balance on a knifes edge using lagging indicators (without futuresight), where you either get hyper-inflationary currency death spiral, or you get a deflationary death spiral from the ever closer margins over time. This has been a known problem for over 100 years, with no solution found. Several non-market socialist economies based on this have failed in that time, each time caused death on a large scale, what do you think will happen when its the reserve currency of the world and you do this?
  - analognoise 3y ago
    Its arguable that non market economies failed due to fast feedback mechanisms to determine where goods need to go and what needs to be produced. They failed before computers were widespread, cheap and powerful. With the amount of data that comes into Amazon, Walmart, Target, and Costco, could you allocate resources correctly in real time? Yes, sure.
    - than3 3y ago
      No you couldn't allocate resources 'correctly'. Anyone saying so hasn't read the literature, or understand the requirements for how computers actually work. The math is impossible because not all information is available. You don't have future sight and the information you need to derive from is lagging. Its temporally bound to a point in time in the past. Additionally, the process involves optimizing production from the production raw materials all the way to the end products. This includes knowing about and re-optimizing in the cases where something locally fails sometimes in the absence of people reporting it (non-deterministic). In non-market systems, shortages cause death, and the only way to avoid shortages is to overproduce by a healthy margin, and even then that doesn't account for those unpredictable events (i.e. for example, like a shipping area catching fire and the nitrogen fertilizer blowing up in Beirut destroying all stored cargo nearby; who could have predicted that). Anyone saying this is possible isn't a credible source. There is over 100 years of study into this problem by some of the best in their fields, and it remains unsolved.

hyperdimension 3y ago

"As a large language model, I take full responsibility in making this difficult decision to layoff..."

gremlinsinc 3y ago

not even close. I'm trying to build a startup and chatGPT is basically my CEO and CMO, frees me up to be the CTO/engineer, although I do have to be his mouth piece. he actually listens to suggestions and since I'm founder, I can replace him with another ai, like Claude from anthropic lol. plus he doesn't take 10k more money than he's worth. just 20 bucks per month.

flashgordon 3y ago
You mean 10x not 10k? 10k more is sweeter deal compared to 10x!
capableweb 3y ago
Since you're the one that is controlling ChatGPT, it sounds more like a executive assistant than actual CEO. If you want a really fun experiment, make ChatGPT have more power and control over the company than you, and we'll see how you like the experience :)
- petemir 3y ago
  "The Dice Man" for the modern times
than3 3y ago
This line of thinking is what will ultimately end us as a species. There are a number of systems that must run in a loop. When that loop stalls, because labor is part of that loop, and illiquidity occurs, and people can't get food. You get a deflationary spiral, and everything breaks down from there. The only offset would be printing a massive amount of money, but then you have rational pricing (that cost vs the product) go out the window. Rational pricing is required to properly allocate resources in a scarce world. Its a very fine balance keeping enough liquidity in the economy so this doesn't happen, and we've all see how well that's turned out. This leads to the economic calculation problem where the policy maker has to balance on a knifes edge using lagging indicators (without futuresight), where you either get hyper-inflationary currency death spiral, or you get a deflationary death spiral from the ever closer margins over time. This has been a known problem for over 100 years, with no solution found. Several non-market socialist economies based on this have failed in that time, each time caused death on a large scale, what do you think will happen when its the reserve currency of the world and you do this?
- analognoise 3y ago
  Its arguable that non market economies failed due to fast feedback mechanisms to determine where goods need to go and what needs to be produced. They failed before computers were widespread, cheap and powerful. With the amount of data that comes into Amazon, Walmart, Target, and Costco, could you allocate resources correctly in real time? Yes, sure.
  - than3 3y ago
    No you couldn't allocate resources 'correctly'. Anyone saying so hasn't read the literature, or understand the requirements for how computers actually work. The math is impossible because not all information is available. You don't have future sight and the information you need to derive from is lagging. Its temporally bound to a point in time in the past. Additionally, the process involves optimizing production from the production raw materials all the way to the end products. This includes knowing about and re-optimizing in the cases where something locally fails sometimes in the absence of people reporting it (non-deterministic). In non-market systems, shortages cause death, and the only way to avoid shortages is to overproduce by a healthy margin, and even then that doesn't account for those unpredictable events (i.e. for example, like a shipping area catching fire and the nitrogen fertilizer blowing up in Beirut destroying all stored cargo nearby; who could have predicted that). Anyone saying this is possible isn't a credible source. There is over 100 years of study into this problem by some of the best in their fields, and it remains unsolved.