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Look, the point is simple, AWS marketing says you can do everything all the time with microservices and their 'DevOps' infrastructure to "abstract away" all the

Look, the point is simple, AWS marketing says you can do everything all the time with microservices and their 'DevOps' infrastructure to "abstract away" all the complex you know - engineering - that you cannot automate effectively and have a long running robust system. So it's humorous to see an Amazon team that is doing things correct and holistically in contrast to the sales and marketing bullshit that AWS and Cloud evangelists spew. Us nerds have a great way of missing the point and bikeshedding on the technicals (which is also great sometimes!)

namaria 4y ago
It's amazing how cloud companies managed to convince so many people in software engineering that software engineering wasn't a core competence in producing software.
- AndrewKemendo 4y ago
  Yeah cause engineers aren’t ones typically doing the buying
  - intelVISA 4y ago
    Same reason MSFT SWEs use Mac over Windows -- they've seen too much.
- atulatul 4y ago
  I think the difference was simple vs easy. They made a few of the things very easy.
scarface74 4y ago
> Look, the point is simple, AWS marketing says you can do everything all the time with microservices and their 'DevOps' infrastructure to "abstract away" all the complex you know - engineering - that you cannot automate effectively and have a long running robust system. As someone who knows a little bit about what AWS recommends to customers when first hand, I can absolutely guarantee you that AWS does not recommend serverless to everyone. The vast majority of projects that consultants do by revenue at any cloud consulting company (including AWS’s own internal company) is regular old VMs.
- wiether 4y ago
  Thank you. It seems that most of the takes against this article are coming from people that have opinions about AWS based on nothing. Sure, AWS is selling Lambda/Serverless services. Sure, they are making articles/videos on microservices architecture. But they are also selling EC2 instances. They are also making articles/videos on monolithic architecture. I have never come across any content from AWS telling that this service/architecture/mindset is the best and every company should use/implement it. Anyone who went through the Well-Architected Framework would be completely aware of that. But I guess it's easier to mock some folks over the Internet than taking time to grab some knowledge and reflect.

namaria 4y ago

It's amazing how cloud companies managed to convince so many people in software engineering that software engineering wasn't a core competence in producing software.

AndrewKemendo 4y ago
Yeah cause engineers aren’t ones typically doing the buying
- intelVISA 4y ago
  Same reason MSFT SWEs use Mac over Windows -- they've seen too much.
atulatul 4y ago
I think the difference was simple vs easy. They made a few of the things very easy.

scarface74 4y ago

> Look, the point is simple, AWS marketing says you can do everything all the time with microservices and their 'DevOps' infrastructure to "abstract away" all the complex you know - engineering - that you cannot automate effectively and have a long running robust system. As someone who knows a little bit about what AWS recommends to customers when first hand, I can absolutely guarantee you that AWS does not recommend serverless to everyone. The vast majority of projects that consultants do by revenue at any cloud consulting company (including AWS’s own internal company) is regular old VMs.

wiether 4y ago
Thank you. It seems that most of the takes against this article are coming from people that have opinions about AWS based on nothing. Sure, AWS is selling Lambda/Serverless services. Sure, they are making articles/videos on microservices architecture. But they are also selling EC2 instances. They are also making articles/videos on monolithic architecture. I have never come across any content from AWS telling that this service/architecture/mindset is the best and every company should use/implement it. Anyone who went through the Well-Architected Framework would be completely aware of that. But I guess it's easier to mock some folks over the Internet than taking time to grab some knowledge and reflect.