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Well, before the metaverse, a persons geographical position and date of birth allowed for some inference of context. You get a 4D coordinate, so to speak. Doesn
by smodo 3y ago
Well, before the metaverse, a persons geographical position and date of birth allowed for some inference of context. You get a 4D coordinate, so to speak. Doesn’t seem very strange to me?
- tgv 3y agoBut, of course, place of birth doesn't determine nationality, and also not necessarily modern nationality. I know a few families whose children were born in France, but have the Spanish nationality, and one of them changed nationality (not to French). Polish borders have shifted a few times, to highlight another problem. I think the problem comes from trying to keep the text short.
- leipert 3y ago> place of birth doesn't determine nationality Depends: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli In most of the Americas it actually does.
- zht 3y agoIn most of the world by landmass and population it doesn’t
- zamnos 3y agoAs anybody with dual citizenship has the passports to prove it, Jus Soli is only half (or a third, for triple citizenship) the story.
- ipaddr 3y agoAnyone with a dual should give one to a stateless person. The group no one talks about.
- tgv 3y agoThat's not how nationality/citizenship works, is it?
- ipaddr 3y agoNot saying they could but think of how many people have more than one citizenship and how many have none. Without a state you are shutoff from everything from the internet to basic rights or a legal place to live. Existing is most likely violating someone's law
- tgv 3y agoThat only leaves - the rest of the world - the fact that right to nationality is not the same as having it. France has the same right, but --as I already pointed out-- there are quite a few people born there who didn't take the nationality - the fact that it can change, and that the inference becomes invalid in the future
- michaelt 3y agoIt depends whether you're trying to follow the "inverted pyramid" writing style [1], which aims to strictly put the most important things first. Some would say, when describing Tim Berners-Lee, the fact he invented the web is more important than the year of his birth, his middle name, his knighthood or his nationality. Wikipedia does get his invention of the web into the first sentence of the article [2], which is good - but not before "Sir Timothy John Berners-Lee, OM, KBE, FRS, FREng, FRSA, DFBCS, RDI (born 8 June 1955), also known as TimBL, is an English computer scientist" Of course, it's might not be practical for Wikipedia to follow the inverted pyramid style, as it might invite edit wars about what counts as most important. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_pyramid_(journalism) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_pyramid_(journalism) [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee
- tobr 3y agoNationality is not a geographical position. It’s more like saying that someone is a “millenial” instead of listing their actual date of birth. But unlike which generation you are born in, nationality is not a simple, fixed, unique thing that everyone has.