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Certainly not a mistake for plenty of companies and more important plenty of people. A CEO doesn’t care about the people, cares more about the bottom line, but

Certainly not a mistake for plenty of companies and more important plenty of people. A CEO doesn’t care about the people, cares more about the bottom line, but people matter and not everyone is working on some amazing life changing thing that they are super passionate about, some are just doing what they are good at to be able to survive and afford to pay bills, for these people, having a long commute and being stuck in the office 5 days a week as just another slap in the face for such people.

fnordpiglet 3y ago
When I’m super passionate about something the last thing I want to do is spend an hour going to a human hamster wheel and stand around talking. I prefer to be in my own environment I’ve customized to myself and work the way I work best. I don’t mind zoom calls or slack etc, and I’ll even head over for a coffee and hang out when it’s useful. But when I’m really into what I’m doing I want to do it and do it well. The human matrix pods they want us to head back to are specifically for the people you mention - the folks who aren’t into their job. They need them in the pod so they can watch their body and be sure it’s not doing other things than whatever soul crushing task they’ve been assigned by an over controlling boss. I get that some people really need to breathe my aerosols to feel satisfied in life. That’s fair. They can all sit around breathing on each other and feeling fulfilled. But I don’t need to, I’m happier living in my local community and breathing local artisanal aerosols of my neighbors for my social juice. What folks need to do is get out of the way and let the work force settle into a configuration that optimizes for personal productivity. We have the tools to allow for group productivity in a partial office and partial remote environment. Look at any multinational / multi office company. But this isn’t about productivity or doing good work - it’s about a moral stance against a loss of control by senior leaders.
- gremlinsinc 3y ago
  it's kinda funny, that the CEO of a company that wins by halving the employment rate through ai, wants real people to return to real offices. you'd think he'd win more, the more we had towards a metaverse. honestly I think if a metaverse is to succeed it needs to be malleable easily, and with things like Midjourney that's much more accessible to non graphic artists etc, I have a feeling they'll find ways for everyone to work still -:even if the work is just mining in a virtual mine. it's still all about control. I saw a spoken word music YouTube video once about schooling and how schools were literally devised during the industrial revolution to teach people to take orders, listen to authority, and basically be good little factory workers. I honestly don't care what Altman says, I think openai is probably as over valued as Tesla, and will be eclipsed by others now that there's an arms race with everybody picking sides or starting their own army etc... That leaked article, whether real or fake was some of the best commentary on the current state of open source ai vs Google and openai, Microsoft, etc... I'm a little nervous about ai being unchecked and so divested, but at the same time- do I trust Altman to be our savior and keep ai in check and only do good with it? fuck no.
zamalek 3y ago
> cares more about the bottom line A CEO doesn't necessarily care about the company bottom line. Like all humans they care about themselves, and are often inclined to prioritize themselves above all (sociopathy). Their interests usually align with the bottom line, but that's certainly not always the case. That's why the board exists: to make the bottom line an existential matter for the CEO. The board couldn't care less about a CEO running their mouth about remote work (although they probably should).

fnordpiglet 3y ago

When I’m super passionate about something the last thing I want to do is spend an hour going to a human hamster wheel and stand around talking. I prefer to be in my own environment I’ve customized to myself and work the way I work best. I don’t mind zoom calls or slack etc, and I’ll even head over for a coffee and hang out when it’s useful. But when I’m really into what I’m doing I want to do it and do it well. The human matrix pods they want us to head back to are specifically for the people you mention - the folks who aren’t into their job. They need them in the pod so they can watch their body and be sure it’s not doing other things than whatever soul crushing task they’ve been assigned by an over controlling boss. I get that some people really need to breathe my aerosols to feel satisfied in life. That’s fair. They can all sit around breathing on each other and feeling fulfilled. But I don’t need to, I’m happier living in my local community and breathing local artisanal aerosols of my neighbors for my social juice. What folks need to do is get out of the way and let the work force settle into a configuration that optimizes for personal productivity. We have the tools to allow for group productivity in a partial office and partial remote environment. Look at any multinational / multi office company. But this isn’t about productivity or doing good work - it’s about a moral stance against a loss of control by senior leaders.

gremlinsinc 3y ago
it's kinda funny, that the CEO of a company that wins by halving the employment rate through ai, wants real people to return to real offices. you'd think he'd win more, the more we had towards a metaverse. honestly I think if a metaverse is to succeed it needs to be malleable easily, and with things like Midjourney that's much more accessible to non graphic artists etc, I have a feeling they'll find ways for everyone to work still -:even if the work is just mining in a virtual mine. it's still all about control. I saw a spoken word music YouTube video once about schooling and how schools were literally devised during the industrial revolution to teach people to take orders, listen to authority, and basically be good little factory workers. I honestly don't care what Altman says, I think openai is probably as over valued as Tesla, and will be eclipsed by others now that there's an arms race with everybody picking sides or starting their own army etc... That leaked article, whether real or fake was some of the best commentary on the current state of open source ai vs Google and openai, Microsoft, etc... I'm a little nervous about ai being unchecked and so divested, but at the same time- do I trust Altman to be our savior and keep ai in check and only do good with it? fuck no.

zamalek 3y ago

> cares more about the bottom line A CEO doesn't necessarily care about the company bottom line. Like all humans they care about themselves, and are often inclined to prioritize themselves above all (sociopathy). Their interests usually align with the bottom line, but that's certainly not always the case. That's why the board exists: to make the bottom line an existential matter for the CEO. The board couldn't care less about a CEO running their mouth about remote work (although they probably should).