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And when it happens to you, Google will let you know that they reserve the terminate your account for any reason or no reason at all. You will get the same emai
by themagician 3y ago
And when it happens to you, Google will let you know that they reserve the terminate your account for any reason or no reason at all. You will get the same email response over and over again:
“We have concluded the review of the information you’ve submitted. To prevent possible fraud and abuse, your Google products and services will remain suspended. It is our policy to not discuss the specific reasons for these suspensions.
Note that in the Google <PRODUCT> Terms of Service, we reserve the right to change, suspend, or discontinue any aspect of our services at any time, including availability of a service or any feature, without notice and without liability. We also reserve the right to impose limits on certain Service features or restrict access to some or all of the Services without notice and without liability.”
It can wreck your life. Getting a suspension lifted can take a truly stupid amount of effort depending on the reason (if you even know it). For me it involved basically stalking employees until I was able to find someone who could actually review my account. Literally looking up employees by department and name on LinkedIn and Twitter, then trying to find their phone number and texting them. I must have sounded crazy. But I was able to find someone to help. Then it took like 5 minutes to fix. It was clear it was just a mistake on their end—an, “overzealous anti-fraud algorithm.” I probably spent around 60 hours in totally trying to get my account restored.
After getting access back I stopped using that account and made sure to distribute access to different accounts and emails. Using a single Google account is just way too risky. The more services you use the more likely you are to encounter an account suspending issue. I’ve heard of many cases where people get hacked and Google’s response is to ban the victim permanently. Facebook has similarly atrocious policies.
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- psychphysic 3y agoBiggest reason I pay for my own domain and low-cost email (tutanota it's offers custom domains for €12pa).
- themagician 3y agoIt’s very easy to become complacent. I knew forever that using Google was a risk. I keep email mostly on owned domains… but I also use all sorts of Google services. The thing is, for every Google service you really should have a separate account. One for dev, one for YouTube, one for Gmail, one for Wallet. Maybe one for Chrome if you use it as a password manager. One for AdWords. One for payments if you use any merchant services. Every service you add to an account increases your odds of suspension. Oddly, I’ve also heard that one of the reasons guy can get banned is for having multiple accounts. So I’m not sure if my new policy is any better than my old one.
- manquer 3y agoGoogle is known to ban all related accounts for a problem with one
- crossroadsguy 3y agoTutanota has two major irreconcilable drawbacks: - They do not let you use any other client -- that's a bummer but let's say I can live with that - But the real bugger is - while they allow catch-all, they (actually their clients because you can't use something like Apple Mail, or Thunderbird) do not allow sending email from "any" email address even on your own domain, which is the mandatory compliment to catch-all, and without it catch-all is half useless. Note: Though I have never quite understood their reasoning for not allowing you to use other clients -- the mails to other domains/providers anyway go unencrypted and just like any other email in the world. This is a weird kind of walled garden.
- renonce 3y agoAt least you can switch to another email provider at any time. The domain is yours.
- crossroadsguy 3y agoIsn't that obvious? The point was one might not want to go to Tutanota in the first place and rather go to another provider instead of going to another provider after a switch.
- cyberax 3y ago> And when it happens to you, Google will let you know that they reserve the terminate your account for any reason or no reason at all. One practical way is to buy your own domain and set up a Google Business account for it. It includes email. So if anything happens, you will still be able to at least transfer the email to another provider.
- babyshake 3y agoAnother benefit is salespeople can often be helpful with things like this, especially if you convince them that you plan on upgrading your account but you need your account to get fixed ASAP.
- crossroadsguy 3y agoAnd that is reliability?
- themagician 3y agoThat’s just email though. Won’t get your YouTube account back. Or documents in Drive. Or money in Wallet. Or passwords from Chrome sync. Or access to a Google Voice number. There are so many Google services and products you may rely on, and often times they have become part of larger processes you have no control over whether you use or not. That’s why the risk of storing passkeys with Google is so great. Your account gets hacked, someone removes all your devices and then the account gets banned. You stand to lose access to hundreds of linked services.
- manquer 3y agoGsuite account includes YouTube and most other google services. However gsuite does not protect you from bans , google will just as likely ban the entire tenant for infractions by a single user
- arp242 3y ago> Gsuite account includes YouTube and most other google services. I'm sure it does, but "if anything happens, you will still be able to at least transfer the email to another provider" doesn't apply since you can't "transfer {YouTube,money in Wallet,password from sync,etc} to another provider" in the same way as email. These things are more than just an address you can point to something else.
- NoMoreNicksLeft 3y agoHow much effort is it to even keep the accounts separate? They've never seemed to have much trouble linking my accounts together, even when (say) one was only used on a personal computer at home, and another on a work computer at the office.
- pkulak 3y agoThis is why I don't keep the primary source of anything that I can't afford to lose anywhere but my own house.