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$15/hr is a living wage, and pretty good for such easy work you can do from home with little to no training. Many would love to have this job.

by xwdv 3y ago

ceejayoz 3y ago
No benefits eats into that quite a bit.
zoklet-enjoyer 3y ago
I would do this part time for extra income. Going to look into it
sandworm101 3y ago
Living wage? Maybe in central Africa. That won't cover rent+food is most north American cities.
- messe 3y ago
  > Living wage? Maybe in central Africa Get out of your bubble. It's a living wage in a good chunk of Western Europe.
  - falcolas 3y ago
    These people don't live in Europe. They live in the US. They'd be paid accordingly less if they lived in Europe. Though they'd probably have better safety nets.
  - sandworm101 3y ago
    But this is in the USA, the land of paid healthcare and limited safety nets. 15 is a knife-edge existence in US cities.
  - kevingadd 3y ago
    Sure, and there are a bunch of countries where the average wage is the equivalent of $2/hr. Is that where the contractors in question live? Then it's not a meaningful point of comparison.
falcolas 3y ago
$30,000 a year is barely a living wage now. Especially if you have a partner, let alone a child. Rent for a 1br apartment rent (in Kansas City) would take about half of that income every month. $30k just above the poverty line for the lower 48, and it is the poverty line if you have the audacity to have two children. Inflation has hit reality pretty fucking hard; we need to adjust our mental models to match that reality again.
- ITB 3y ago
  People who are at the bottom of the income pyramid should prefer partners that also have an income.
  - anonymouskimmer 3y ago
    Should prefer, but even if they do, they and their partner's continuing prospects are also more precarious than those higher up the income pyramid.
- dragonwriter 3y ago
  > $30k just above the poverty line for the lower 48, More then double for the 48 contiguous states (“lower 48” only made sense as a synonym for 8½ months in 1949) plus DC. > and it is the poverty line if you have the audacity to have two children. If you have a family of four with one income, to be precise.
  - falcolas 3y ago
    > More then double $15k in Kansas city wouldn't even get you a studio apartment, let alone the extras like food or water. Doubling "can't even get a roof over your head" isn't exactly something to be proud of. But sure, for one person, you're living the life at a bit over 2x the poverty level pre-tax. > “lower 48” only made sense as a synonym for 8½ months in 1949 And yet the meaning was clear - why argue about it? > to be precise. What was imprecise about $30k being poverty level for a family with two children?
kevingadd 3y ago
A living wage where? Where these contractors live?

$15/hr is a living wage, and pretty good for such easy work you can do from home with little to no training. Many would love to have this job.

by xwdv 3y ago

$15/hr is a living wage, and pretty good for such easy work you can do from home with little to no training. Many would love to have this job.

ceejayoz 3y ago

No benefits eats into that quite a bit.

zoklet-enjoyer 3y ago

I would do this part time for extra income. Going to look into it

sandworm101 3y ago

Living wage? Maybe in central Africa. That won't cover rent+food is most north American cities.

messe 3y ago
> Living wage? Maybe in central Africa Get out of your bubble. It's a living wage in a good chunk of Western Europe.
- falcolas 3y ago
  These people don't live in Europe. They live in the US. They'd be paid accordingly less if they lived in Europe. Though they'd probably have better safety nets.
- sandworm101 3y ago
  But this is in the USA, the land of paid healthcare and limited safety nets. 15 is a knife-edge existence in US cities.
- kevingadd 3y ago
  Sure, and there are a bunch of countries where the average wage is the equivalent of $2/hr. Is that where the contractors in question live? Then it's not a meaningful point of comparison.

falcolas 3y ago

$30,000 a year is barely a living wage now. Especially if you have a partner, let alone a child. Rent for a 1br apartment rent (in Kansas City) would take about half of that income every month. $30k just above the poverty line for the lower 48, and it is the poverty line if you have the audacity to have two children. Inflation has hit reality pretty fucking hard; we need to adjust our mental models to match that reality again.

ITB 3y ago
People who are at the bottom of the income pyramid should prefer partners that also have an income.
- anonymouskimmer 3y ago
  Should prefer, but even if they do, they and their partner's continuing prospects are also more precarious than those higher up the income pyramid.
dragonwriter 3y ago
> $30k just above the poverty line for the lower 48, More then double for the 48 contiguous states (“lower 48” only made sense as a synonym for 8½ months in 1949) plus DC. > and it is the poverty line if you have the audacity to have two children. If you have a family of four with one income, to be precise.
- falcolas 3y ago
  > More then double $15k in Kansas city wouldn't even get you a studio apartment, let alone the extras like food or water. Doubling "can't even get a roof over your head" isn't exactly something to be proud of. But sure, for one person, you're living the life at a bit over 2x the poverty level pre-tax. > “lower 48” only made sense as a synonym for 8½ months in 1949 And yet the meaning was clear - why argue about it? > to be precise. What was imprecise about $30k being poverty level for a family with two children?

kevingadd 3y ago

A living wage where? Where these contractors live?