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Oh so he's idolizing the perpetrators of the 1804 massacre of the white population by the haitian revolutionaries on the orders of Jean-Jacques Dessalines, who

Oh so he's idolizing the perpetrators of the 1804 massacre of the white population by the haitian revolutionaries on the orders of Jean-Jacques Dessalines, who then enacted racist policies in 1805? You find with these revolutions the massacres of the innocent are easy to find after. The haitians were not somehow more moral and upstanding than the french.

boomboomsubban 3y ago
No, by 1804 the "Black Jacobins" were mostly deported with Toussaint L'Ouverture already dead. That other Hatians committed atrocities does not detract from L'Ouverture's legacy.
- LegitShady 3y ago
  > No, by 1804 the "Black Jacobins" were mostly deported with Toussaint L'Ouverture already dead. Except Dessalines, who was previously one of his Black Jacobin generals, but then turned on him, then rejoined him, then turned on him once again when L'Overture declared a ceasefire with the french but then went back on it, and Dessalines went on to massacre the white population of hiati, so exactly L'Ouverture's legacy. It's just that L'Ouverture lost internal power struggles in the revolution.
  - boomboomsubban 3y ago
    >It's just that L'Ouverture lost internal power struggles in the revolution. He lost to someone who clearly did not share his ideology, the ideology that the Jacobin took it's name from. I find much of the rest of your post strange, but it's already getting way off topic.
    - LegitShady 3y ago
      Dessalines was L'Ouverture's principle lieutenant and general. It wasn't until after the Battle of Crete-a-Pierrot, where Dessalines forces kicked the french out of fort Crete-a-Pierrot, then massacred the french civilians, and then themselves were forced out of the fort due to heavy losses on Leclerc's counterattack, that Dessalines switched alliegences. Dessalines than switched sides which led to the surrender of L'Ouverture. The massacre of french civilians there still happened under L'Ouverture. He didn't have a different ideology, he was literally L'Ouverture's primary supporter and ally, until defeated militarily.

boomboomsubban 3y ago

No, by 1804 the "Black Jacobins" were mostly deported with Toussaint L'Ouverture already dead. That other Hatians committed atrocities does not detract from L'Ouverture's legacy.

LegitShady 3y ago
> No, by 1804 the "Black Jacobins" were mostly deported with Toussaint L'Ouverture already dead. Except Dessalines, who was previously one of his Black Jacobin generals, but then turned on him, then rejoined him, then turned on him once again when L'Overture declared a ceasefire with the french but then went back on it, and Dessalines went on to massacre the white population of hiati, so exactly L'Ouverture's legacy. It's just that L'Ouverture lost internal power struggles in the revolution.
- boomboomsubban 3y ago
  >It's just that L'Ouverture lost internal power struggles in the revolution. He lost to someone who clearly did not share his ideology, the ideology that the Jacobin took it's name from. I find much of the rest of your post strange, but it's already getting way off topic.
  - LegitShady 3y ago
    Dessalines was L'Ouverture's principle lieutenant and general. It wasn't until after the Battle of Crete-a-Pierrot, where Dessalines forces kicked the french out of fort Crete-a-Pierrot, then massacred the french civilians, and then themselves were forced out of the fort due to heavy losses on Leclerc's counterattack, that Dessalines switched alliegences. Dessalines than switched sides which led to the surrender of L'Ouverture. The massacre of french civilians there still happened under L'Ouverture. He didn't have a different ideology, he was literally L'Ouverture's primary supporter and ally, until defeated militarily.