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You’re downvoted. But I had it. It is great to rest 3 days and do 4 days shit diving. Of course, pay was lover accordingly. I gladly would do 32 hours on 4 days

by lnsru 3y ago

You’re downvoted. But I had it. It is great to rest 3 days and do 4 days shit diving. Of course, pay was lover accordingly. I gladly would do 32 hours on 4 days instead of standard German 35 hours on 5 days. Paradoxically it is impossible to find 4 days position despite it is being advertised in ads as optional feature. No hiring manager is offering it for real.

yboris 3y ago
The "of course, pay was lower" isn't what the 4DWW movement is fighting for though: it's about having 1 fewer day of work with no increase in hours and no loss of pay. Productivity has been going up for half a century now with profits going to the top rather than the workers. All workers deserve 1 day less of work. Us tech workers too: with modern tooling spinning up a new service (a server in production) can take under a day of work while in the past it would be weeks! We do so much more today per day than ever before yet don't usually have the option to work fewer days.
- WuxiFingerHold 3y ago
  >> The "of course, pay was lower" isn't what the 4DWW movement is fighting for though: it's about having 1 fewer day of work with no increase in hours and no loss of pay. Then I vote for the 2 days movement. Joke aside, I wasn't aware that you were promoting a political movement. Sure, just working less and getting the same money prevents work related burnout. But that is not really big news and simply not feasible in this highly competitive world.
  - yboris 3y ago
    I suspect you've not been following the news! https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2023/02/21/four-day-work-week-results-uk/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2023/02/21/four-day-... A four-day workweek pilot was so successful most firms say they won’t go back Companies are choosing to keep the policy because it was better for the company too. Over 80% of the companies trialing 4DWW in one large sample chose to keep the policy!
  - piva00 3y ago
    > Sure, just working less and getting the same money prevents work related burnout. But that is not really big news and simply not feasible in this highly competitive world. This world is made by people, constructed under rules of people, people are in control of what this "competitive" world is or isn't. It's not a force of nature, it's not the heat death of the Universe. Changing a social system is extremely hard, probably some of the hardest problems we as humans can face but it doesn't mean I or you should just accept this "competitive world". It's been created by us, it's on us to tear it down.

by lnsru 3y ago

yboris 3y ago

The "of course, pay was lower" isn't what the 4DWW movement is fighting for though: it's about having 1 fewer day of work with no increase in hours and no loss of pay. Productivity has been going up for half a century now with profits going to the top rather than the workers. All workers deserve 1 day less of work. Us tech workers too: with modern tooling spinning up a new service (a server in production) can take under a day of work while in the past it would be weeks! We do so much more today per day than ever before yet don't usually have the option to work fewer days.

WuxiFingerHold 3y ago
>> The "of course, pay was lower" isn't what the 4DWW movement is fighting for though: it's about having 1 fewer day of work with no increase in hours and no loss of pay. Then I vote for the 2 days movement. Joke aside, I wasn't aware that you were promoting a political movement. Sure, just working less and getting the same money prevents work related burnout. But that is not really big news and simply not feasible in this highly competitive world.
- yboris 3y ago
  I suspect you've not been following the news! https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2023/02/21/four-day-work-week-results-uk/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2023/02/21/four-day-... A four-day workweek pilot was so successful most firms say they won’t go back Companies are choosing to keep the policy because it was better for the company too. Over 80% of the companies trialing 4DWW in one large sample chose to keep the policy!
- piva00 3y ago
  > Sure, just working less and getting the same money prevents work related burnout. But that is not really big news and simply not feasible in this highly competitive world. This world is made by people, constructed under rules of people, people are in control of what this "competitive" world is or isn't. It's not a force of nature, it's not the heat death of the Universe. Changing a social system is extremely hard, probably some of the hardest problems we as humans can face but it doesn't mean I or you should just accept this "competitive world". It's been created by us, it's on us to tear it down.