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"and especially the EU, which was mostly built on the basis of confrontation with Russia" Is that a US point of view? As a european, it is the first time I hea
by hutzlibu 4y ago
"and especially the EU, which was mostly built on the basis of confrontation with Russia"
Is that a US point of view? As a european, it is the first time I heard this.
(Edit: I mean yes, it was founded under the assumption of soviet threat, but it was not constructed especially against russia, which is how I read your comment)
The NATO was constructed against communist russia.
But the reasons for the founding of the EU are more complex, but mostly they were for .. europa. Not to become dependant on russia, nor USA. Stand on its own. Interconnecting economically, to not have a big war again.
And large parts of europe would actually love to get back to also freely trading with russia. Eastern europe (starting in east germany) had tight industrial relationships with russia and were therefore also hit hard by the sanctions.
Now it seems hard, to imagine going back while Putin is in power, but 15 years ago, it all looked very different. With a radical change of leadership in russia, it would look different again.
Russia is huge and has lots of ressources, they would be welcomed back for sure.
- cutler 4y agoIf there is to be any post-war justice it will involve serious Russian reparations with their economy already significantly weakened. Add to that the lessons learned by EU member states and I don't see any rapprochement for a very long time.
- hgsgm 4y agoThat's the blueprint for how Europe returned to greatness after The Great War to End all War in the 1920s!
- hutzlibu 4y agoYes, "justice" can be a dangerous concept in the geopolitical context. There is lots of injustice happening all the time and if you really want justice, you would have to be consequent on all sides, I think. Starting with Iraq, Kashoggi, Assange, Snowden, Turkey, Armenia, Syria, Jemen, ... And as long as a really great war with china remains possible, a "injust" peace with russia might be preferable, compared to a "just" war, with the NATO against the combined east.