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I have a Google Hub and 2 Minis , would I be able to repurpose them for HA or do I have to start from scratch...? If they can't be reused, I might as well stick

by toyg 4y ago

I have a Google Hub and 2 Minis , would I be able to repurpose them for HA or do I have to start from scratch...? If they can't be reused, I might as well stick to Google until they get bricked (which I'm sure will happen at some point).

jon-wood 4y ago
Currently, no, but HA will integrate with them and expose any devices to Google’s ecosystem (even if they don’t natively support that). You can also use devices with a screen as dashboards for HA.
- BrandoElFollito 4y ago
  I do use Google minis with HA and can voice activate lights, shutters etc.
zamalek 4y ago
I use Google devices with my HA setup just fine (although I want to move away). HA just added integrated assistant support, so I'm keen to try that out when I get back from vacation.
- briHass 4y ago
  Does the HA voice assistant support require HA Cloud or whatever they're calling it? The price for that $6/m felt a bit steep for what it provided, though supporting HA development is appealing. When I started to read through the non-cloud option, I saw some analog telephone and POTS modem requirements and my eyes glazed over.
  - blue_cookeh 4y ago
    > When I started to read through the non-cloud option, I saw some analog telephone and POTS modem requirements and my eyes glazed over. Confused on that one. You can expose Home Assistant to the internet (preferably using a reverse proxy like Traefik or Nginx, which is basically what your $6 gets you anyway) to make Google Assistant work properly with it.
    - c0wb0yc0d3r 4y ago
      They're talking about this: https://www.home-assistant.io/projects/worlds-most-private-voice-assistant https://www.home-assistant.io/projects/worlds-most-private-v...
  - jasonjayr 4y ago
    Where did you see anything about POTS?
    - c0wb0yc0d3r 4y ago
      They're talking about this: https://www.home-assistant.io/projects/worlds-most-private-voice-assistant https://www.home-assistant.io/projects/worlds-most-private-v...
      - indeyets 4y ago
        That is an art-project, not the only option. Normal options work just fine too :)
  - jeroenhd 4y ago
    > Does the HA voice assistant support require HA Cloud or whatever they're calling it? I've set it up with a Google API key. The process of getting an API key isn't very smooth (Google's backend is terrible and guides from just a week ago may already be outdated if you're unlucky) but after pasting three magical strings it works very well. It supports most sensors and devices I've tried it with. I've only had it fail because some Google can't do natural language parsing for some of the software sensors I've set up on HA ("how many days until my website's certificate expires") but for your standard smart lights/blinds/presence detection/etc. it'll work just fine. This is the guide I used: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/google_assistant/ https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/google_assistant/ Everything but step 4.9.2 and step 5 are messing around in Google dashboard but they seem to have updated the dashboard these days. All of this messing around with APIs is probably why they recommend people to just use their cloud offering.
  - freen 4y ago
    Nope. As far as I know, everything can be run locally, given a sufficiently powerful machine.
amf12 4y ago
Yep, HA has a lot of integrations to connect to different ecosystems. Fair warning though, setting it up and making it work requires good amount of work. I spent way too much time for on it for my basic needs and eventually gave up.

by toyg 4y ago

jon-wood 4y ago

Currently, no, but HA will integrate with them and expose any devices to Google’s ecosystem (even if they don’t natively support that). You can also use devices with a screen as dashboards for HA.

BrandoElFollito 4y ago
I do use Google minis with HA and can voice activate lights, shutters etc.

zamalek 4y ago

I use Google devices with my HA setup just fine (although I want to move away). HA just added integrated assistant support, so I'm keen to try that out when I get back from vacation.

briHass 4y ago
Does the HA voice assistant support require HA Cloud or whatever they're calling it? The price for that $6/m felt a bit steep for what it provided, though supporting HA development is appealing. When I started to read through the non-cloud option, I saw some analog telephone and POTS modem requirements and my eyes glazed over.
- blue_cookeh 4y ago
  > When I started to read through the non-cloud option, I saw some analog telephone and POTS modem requirements and my eyes glazed over. Confused on that one. You can expose Home Assistant to the internet (preferably using a reverse proxy like Traefik or Nginx, which is basically what your $6 gets you anyway) to make Google Assistant work properly with it.
  - c0wb0yc0d3r 4y ago
    They're talking about this: https://www.home-assistant.io/projects/worlds-most-private-voice-assistant https://www.home-assistant.io/projects/worlds-most-private-v...
- jasonjayr 4y ago
  Where did you see anything about POTS?
  - c0wb0yc0d3r 4y ago
    They're talking about this: https://www.home-assistant.io/projects/worlds-most-private-voice-assistant https://www.home-assistant.io/projects/worlds-most-private-v...
    - indeyets 4y ago
      That is an art-project, not the only option. Normal options work just fine too :)
- jeroenhd 4y ago
  > Does the HA voice assistant support require HA Cloud or whatever they're calling it? I've set it up with a Google API key. The process of getting an API key isn't very smooth (Google's backend is terrible and guides from just a week ago may already be outdated if you're unlucky) but after pasting three magical strings it works very well. It supports most sensors and devices I've tried it with. I've only had it fail because some Google can't do natural language parsing for some of the software sensors I've set up on HA ("how many days until my website's certificate expires") but for your standard smart lights/blinds/presence detection/etc. it'll work just fine. This is the guide I used: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/google_assistant/ https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/google_assistant/ Everything but step 4.9.2 and step 5 are messing around in Google dashboard but they seem to have updated the dashboard these days. All of this messing around with APIs is probably why they recommend people to just use their cloud offering.
- freen 4y ago
  Nope. As far as I know, everything can be run locally, given a sufficiently powerful machine.

amf12 4y ago

Yep, HA has a lot of integrations to connect to different ecosystems. Fair warning though, setting it up and making it work requires good amount of work. I spent way too much time for on it for my basic needs and eventually gave up.