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If only the author knew to what level Home Assistant reached, they would not even bother with google or alexa.

by ilayn 3y ago

gondaloof 3y ago
What can HA do that Google/Alexa can’t?
- c4mpute 3y ago
  Break even faster. Upgrading HA is a chore, it frequently breaks, ceases to understand its own configuration, drops integrations.
  - kweingar 3y ago
    Not sure why this was downvoted. This has been my experience. It’s quite high maintenance.
  - srmarm 3y ago
    I had this experience a few years back and just put it in the sorta janky but hacky fun box. However I did a totally fresh reinstall on some new hardware 6 months ago and it's been absolutely rock solid since and updates have been one click without issue. Was still a bit of a faff to set up (though tbf that was more around the VM side of things which was my perogative)
    - mholm 3y ago
      I had the exact same experience. I might even have some comments on an old HN account complaining about HA's disregard for upgrade stability. After another broken upgrade, I finally decided to just fix my install at a certain update in March 2022 and leave it there. I left it there for over a year, until I wanted a few newer features. I carved out a chunk of my weekend to make sure I had time to fix whatever broke with everything and... nothing broke after catching up on a full year of updates. It's now faster, just as reliable, and has more features than before. Home Assistant is finally ready for primetime in the average technical user's home.
  - BrandoElFollito 3y ago
    "frequently"? I upgrade it automatically for years and they royally fucked the upgrade only once (I had to spend an hour to bring it back to life). Otherwise I never had an issue with my set of devices.
  - jeroenhd 3y ago
    I've had that experience a few times a few years ago, but these days I don't even enable the "make a backup" checkbox when I upgrade HA. Things seem to break more if you pull in external software repositories (HACS) but that's to be expected.
- isoprophlex 3y ago
  Not milk it's users for every iota of personal information for one, and of course actual customization and almost infinite hackability if you are so inclined
- lawn 3y ago
  The amount of possible integrations and customization possible with Google isn't even the same playing field as what HA can do. I've integrated monitoring my heatpump, solar palens, speakers, Ikea and Philips lights, Todoist, calendars, Garmin and much more. All controllable via Python scripting.
amf12 3y ago
Here's me trying to install HA a few months ago on an old Windows laptop: "Oh, the HA OS requires a VM? Let me create one. But now, my bluetooth isn't accessible to HA. Oh well let me try Core. Great, but now I can't do automatic updates, or restore from backups. Ugh fine. I'll do it manually. Some integrations needs setting up APIs? Well the documentation doesn't explain much. Oh this one needs me to setup external access using their service or set up a cert. Man this is a lot of work for some automation to turn on my lights or connect to the services I need. Fuck, let me just do this all in Google Home." Has Home Assistant reached Google or Alexa in setup?

If only the author knew to what level Home Assistant reached, they would not even bother with google or alexa.

by ilayn 3y ago

If only the author knew to what level Home Assistant reached, they would not even bother with google or alexa.

gondaloof 3y ago

What can HA do that Google/Alexa can’t?

c4mpute 3y ago
Break even faster. Upgrading HA is a chore, it frequently breaks, ceases to understand its own configuration, drops integrations.
- kweingar 3y ago
  Not sure why this was downvoted. This has been my experience. It’s quite high maintenance.
- srmarm 3y ago
  I had this experience a few years back and just put it in the sorta janky but hacky fun box. However I did a totally fresh reinstall on some new hardware 6 months ago and it's been absolutely rock solid since and updates have been one click without issue. Was still a bit of a faff to set up (though tbf that was more around the VM side of things which was my perogative)
  - mholm 3y ago
    I had the exact same experience. I might even have some comments on an old HN account complaining about HA's disregard for upgrade stability. After another broken upgrade, I finally decided to just fix my install at a certain update in March 2022 and leave it there. I left it there for over a year, until I wanted a few newer features. I carved out a chunk of my weekend to make sure I had time to fix whatever broke with everything and... nothing broke after catching up on a full year of updates. It's now faster, just as reliable, and has more features than before. Home Assistant is finally ready for primetime in the average technical user's home.
- BrandoElFollito 3y ago
  "frequently"? I upgrade it automatically for years and they royally fucked the upgrade only once (I had to spend an hour to bring it back to life). Otherwise I never had an issue with my set of devices.
- jeroenhd 3y ago
  I've had that experience a few times a few years ago, but these days I don't even enable the "make a backup" checkbox when I upgrade HA. Things seem to break more if you pull in external software repositories (HACS) but that's to be expected.
isoprophlex 3y ago
Not milk it's users for every iota of personal information for one, and of course actual customization and almost infinite hackability if you are so inclined
lawn 3y ago
The amount of possible integrations and customization possible with Google isn't even the same playing field as what HA can do. I've integrated monitoring my heatpump, solar palens, speakers, Ikea and Philips lights, Todoist, calendars, Garmin and much more. All controllable via Python scripting.

amf12 3y ago

Here's me trying to install HA a few months ago on an old Windows laptop: "Oh, the HA OS requires a VM? Let me create one. But now, my bluetooth isn't accessible to HA. Oh well let me try Core. Great, but now I can't do automatic updates, or restore from backups. Ugh fine. I'll do it manually. Some integrations needs setting up APIs? Well the documentation doesn't explain much. Oh this one needs me to setup external access using their service or set up a cert. Man this is a lot of work for some automation to turn on my lights or connect to the services I need. Fuck, let me just do this all in Google Home." Has Home Assistant reached Google or Alexa in setup?