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> 5G is about capacity If that’s right, then all the consumer-oriented ads for 5G are pointless.

by f6v 3y ago

jackvalentine 3y ago
They really are, but you can’t convince people to upgrade their handset on ‘our network is going to get shittier and shitter unless you move to a new technology’.
- roxgib 3y ago
  But it's not like they're dismantling the 4G infrastructure yet right? For a while at least I would have assumed people moving to 5G would steadily free up capacity on 4G bands.
  - jackvalentine 3y ago
    Carriers are moving allocated spectrum to 5G from 4G, my carrier’s 4g service is basically unusable at times now. Even if they weren’t, people are using more and more bandwidth just naturally loading ads and shit I guess.
- Ekaros 3y ago
  Handsets I think start to be there. Even for reasonable prices, not for the cheapest, but reasonably priced ones. But they still charge extra and lot of it here for the contract...
fafzv 3y ago
They are not, because if you stay in 4G, your experience will only worsen with time.
- m348e912 3y ago
  Exactly, the same way 3G became unusable for internet anytime your phone reverted to it, even thought at as a protocol it is perfectly appropriate for things like loading basic websites. Throttled 3G makes 4G look amazing. Rinse and repeat for 5G.
ksec 3y ago
They are, and so are 99% of articles ( even Tech Enthusiast focused ) on the internet. One could understand, why they need to market the hype ( or bait ) to switch to 5G. On the other hand, most of the marketing point, like self driving vehicles, remote surgery operation, mmWave for everyone, or so called up to 20Gbps are by most's [1] people's standard "lying". They could have used other marketing points , but somehow marketing for tech has become something else. If you talk to most if not all engineers working on 5G, whether that is the 3GPP spec, or actual network implementation in both software and hardware. They would all tell you the truth, 5G is simply a better 4G. And to be honest, as an Engineers, Tech Enthusiast, and also a consumer. That is good enough for what it is. [1] May be not America because it seems you could get away with Tesla type of marketing and hype without immediate penalties.

> 5G is about capacity If that’s right, then all the consumer-oriented ads for 5G are pointless.

by f6v 3y ago

> 5G is about capacity If that’s right, then all the consumer-oriented ads for 5G are pointless.

They really are, but you can’t convince people to upgrade their handset on ‘our network is going to get shittier and shitter unless you move to a new technology’.

roxgib 3y ago
But it's not like they're dismantling the 4G infrastructure yet right? For a while at least I would have assumed people moving to 5G would steadily free up capacity on 4G bands.
- jackvalentine 3y ago
  Carriers are moving allocated spectrum to 5G from 4G, my carrier’s 4g service is basically unusable at times now. Even if they weren’t, people are using more and more bandwidth just naturally loading ads and shit I guess.
Ekaros 3y ago
Handsets I think start to be there. Even for reasonable prices, not for the cheapest, but reasonably priced ones. But they still charge extra and lot of it here for the contract...

fafzv 3y ago

They are not, because if you stay in 4G, your experience will only worsen with time.

m348e912 3y ago
Exactly, the same way 3G became unusable for internet anytime your phone reverted to it, even thought at as a protocol it is perfectly appropriate for things like loading basic websites. Throttled 3G makes 4G look amazing. Rinse and repeat for 5G.

ksec 3y ago

They are, and so are 99% of articles ( even Tech Enthusiast focused ) on the internet. One could understand, why they need to market the hype ( or bait ) to switch to 5G. On the other hand, most of the marketing point, like self driving vehicles, remote surgery operation, mmWave for everyone, or so called up to 20Gbps are by most's [1] people's standard "lying". They could have used other marketing points , but somehow marketing for tech has become something else. If you talk to most if not all engineers working on 5G, whether that is the 3GPP spec, or actual network implementation in both software and hardware. They would all tell you the truth, 5G is simply a better 4G. And to be honest, as an Engineers, Tech Enthusiast, and also a consumer. That is good enough for what it is. [1] May be not America because it seems you could get away with Tesla type of marketing and hype without immediate penalties.