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Yeah, this is the kind of thing that Eliezer Yudkowsky is kind of right about. You have a draw a clear line about what advice you are going to be taking from an

by Vecr 3y ago

Yeah, this is the kind of thing that Eliezer Yudkowsky is kind of right about. You have a draw a clear line about what advice you are going to be taking from any kind of AI whatsoever, otherwise it's really confusing to people why this time was fine because the AI is not "general" but in some unspecified future time it's not okay. Especially if you want to tell people that some future IA will kill everyone with synthetic biology.

PrimeMcFly 3y ago
> Yeah, this is the kind of thing that Eliezer Yudkowsky is kind of right about. I find it very hard to take him seriously or assign him any credibility with how he acted regarding the whole "Roko's basilisk" thing, not to mention some of his views just seem plain nuts to me.
- Vecr 3y ago
  I agree, but that does not mean everything he says is wrong. I think the public having clear expectations of AIs and how they interact with them is important in general.
  - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
    But when he talks about AI, he is talking about artificial consciousnesses, and we are no where even close to creating something like that. I mean I agree having rules and expectations is important though. On the other hand I wonder how enforceable it will be since people can generate models in secret in their homes.
    - ben_w 3y ago
      > But when he talks about AI, he is talking about artificial consciousnesses Yudkowsky may have talked about artificial consciousnesses at various points, but that's not even close to a critical issue for why he's a doomer. The TLDR quote I have of his fear is: “The AI does not hate you, nor does it love you, but you are made out of atoms which it can use for something else.” - https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/499238-the-ai-does-not-hate-you-nor-does-it-love https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/499238-the-ai-does-not-hate...

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Yeah, this is the kind of thing that Eliezer Yudkowsky is kind of right about. You have a draw a clear line about what advice you are going to be taking from an

by Vecr 3y ago

PrimeMcFly 3y ago
> Yeah, this is the kind of thing that Eliezer Yudkowsky is kind of right about. I find it very hard to take him seriously or assign him any credibility with how he acted regarding the whole "Roko's basilisk" thing, not to mention some of his views just seem plain nuts to me.
- Vecr 3y ago
  I agree, but that does not mean everything he says is wrong. I think the public having clear expectations of AIs and how they interact with them is important in general.
  - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
    But when he talks about AI, he is talking about artificial consciousnesses, and we are no where even close to creating something like that. I mean I agree having rules and expectations is important though. On the other hand I wonder how enforceable it will be since people can generate models in secret in their homes.
    - ben_w 3y ago
      > But when he talks about AI, he is talking about artificial consciousnesses Yudkowsky may have talked about artificial consciousnesses at various points, but that's not even close to a critical issue for why he's a doomer. The TLDR quote I have of his fear is: “The AI does not hate you, nor does it love you, but you are made out of atoms which it can use for something else.” - https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/499238-the-ai-does-not-hate-you-nor-does-it-love https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/499238-the-ai-does-not-hate...