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- catiopatio 3y ago[flagged]
- dang 3y agoWould you please stop posting ideological flamewar comments? It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- catiopatio 3y agoI don’t perceive “be open to vibrant discourse and charitable to your outgroup” to be either an overtly ideological position or flamewar fodder … … but I’m open to the possibility that I’m viewing my own comments in an overly favorable light, and appreciate your feedback.
- dang 3y agoI agree that we should be open to vibrant discourse and charitable to outgroups. But that's not what your GP comment actually did. What it did was tell the other person: you're failing to empathize, you have no ability to understand, you can't see a point of view other than your own, you've subscribed to an ideology, you dismiss anything that doesn't share your point of view. No one on the receiving end of that will feel like they are being met with open, vibrant, charitable discourse! You have to show those qualities, not tell them. I'm sure your intentions were good—it's just that the mechanics of "vibrant discourse and charitability to outgroups" are trickier than they seem. Nothing is easier than to unintentionally break them without realizing it. Therefore we all need to work hard at it consciously and listen to feedback when we get it wrong. Me most of all. (btw the second half of your comment was just fine)
- dang 3y agoWould you please stop posting ideological flamewar comments? It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html