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I'm not sure that they can of the key is proprietary to Intel. I think this would open up those projects to litigation.

by fowtowmowcow 3y ago

zapdrive 3y ago
It's just a string of characters.
- Xorlev 3y ago
  Software, movies, music is just a string of bits. Using something leaked always carries some inherent risk.
  - realusername 3y ago
    The difference is that software and music are made by authors unlike keys, that's what makes them copyrightable
- brookst 3y ago
  So are bomb threats and false advertising. I don't think "it's just characters" is a one-simple-trick.
  - ok123456 3y ago
    you make a mathematical formula that generates the key.
    - evancox100 3y ago
      Good luck with that argument! "Your honor, I wasn't copying that movie. You see, I applied a mathematical formula to the .zip file, and it just happened to produce the movie as output. Coincidence!" (That's not to say the key is copyrightable, it's not. I think the relevant law would be the DMCA anti-circumvention provision.)
      - brookst 3y ago
        "I didn't distribute the movie, just a file that XOR'd every byte with 255!" Technical people tend to see the law as a technical thing, where technical arguments will win. Courts are generally unamused, since every judge has years of experience with defendants who think that they've discovered one simple trick.
einarfd 3y ago
There seems to be a bit of a precedence with the AACS DVD encryption keys that got leaked (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AACS_encryption_key_controversy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AACS_encryption_key_controve...), the suppression of that key. Seems to have failed, it was widely copied, and you can even find a copy of it on my link to Wikipedia.
realusername 3y ago
> I'm not sure that they can of the key is proprietary to Intel. I think this would open up those projects to litigation Depends of the legislation. That's questionable in the US since the keys are 100% machine generated and thus not copyrightable. In most of the EU, it's clear though, there's interobability exceptions and those keys can be shared freely.

I'm not sure that they can of the key is proprietary to Intel. I think this would open up those projects to litigation.

zapdrive 3y ago

It's just a string of characters.

Xorlev 3y ago
Software, movies, music is just a string of bits. Using something leaked always carries some inherent risk.
- realusername 3y ago
  The difference is that software and music are made by authors unlike keys, that's what makes them copyrightable
brookst 3y ago
So are bomb threats and false advertising. I don't think "it's just characters" is a one-simple-trick.
- ok123456 3y ago
  you make a mathematical formula that generates the key.
  - evancox100 3y ago
    Good luck with that argument! "Your honor, I wasn't copying that movie. You see, I applied a mathematical formula to the .zip file, and it just happened to produce the movie as output. Coincidence!" (That's not to say the key is copyrightable, it's not. I think the relevant law would be the DMCA anti-circumvention provision.)
    - brookst 3y ago
      "I didn't distribute the movie, just a file that XOR'd every byte with 255!" Technical people tend to see the law as a technical thing, where technical arguments will win. Courts are generally unamused, since every judge has years of experience with defendants who think that they've discovered one simple trick.

einarfd 3y ago

There seems to be a bit of a precedence with the AACS DVD encryption keys that got leaked (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AACS_encryption_key_controversy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AACS_encryption_key_controve...), the suppression of that key. Seems to have failed, it was widely copied, and you can even find a copy of it on my link to Wikipedia.

realusername 3y ago

> I'm not sure that they can of the key is proprietary to Intel. I think this would open up those projects to litigation Depends of the legislation. That's questionable in the US since the keys are 100% machine generated and thus not copyrightable. In most of the EU, it's clear though, there's interobability exceptions and those keys can be shared freely.