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Yes, unless the data has been doctored or outright fabricated to present a dismal picture that has the effect of coercing society to adopt globalist elitist age

by surume 3y ago

Yes, unless the data has been doctored or outright fabricated to present a dismal picture that has the effect of coercing society to adopt globalist elitist agendas that rob the populations of their rights and power "for the greater good". We can no longer "trust the science". There are too many examples of it being utterly corrupted to substantiate narrow and extremist political goals.

sebmellen 3y ago
If the data has been doctored, it's in the opposite direction. You are completely misguided if you think the majority of wealthy "elites" are making any serious efforts to address climate crises. https://www.climateofdenial.org/track-climate-change-denial/heritage-foundation/ https://www.climateofdenial.org/track-climate-change-denial/...
- surume 3y ago
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  - enraged_camel 3y ago
    Project Veritas? You can’t be serious.
    - surume 3y ago
      Verified and certified video of CNN executives discussing their plans - why not be serious? CNN never even denied it. Those are their employees. Do you have any proof that this isn't legit?
- AnimalMuppet 3y ago
  The claim wasn't that the elite are making a serious effort to address the climate issue. The claim was that the elite are making a serious effort to use the fear of the climate crisis to push everyone else to give up freedom and give the elites more control. Mind you, I'm not saying I agree with the claim. But before you dismiss it as baloney, at least be sure you know what is actually being claimed.
phaker 3y ago
With this attitude you'll see conspiracies everywhere, and that's a self reinforcing spiral. If this is how much evidence you need to dismiss something without checking, then you'll dismiss everything and you'll never find out if/when the hunch was wrong.
- surume 3y ago
  My attitude is scientifically based. When you see data that is "too good to be true" for a certain political side, you should assume that it likely is. If this "completely vindicates" the drive and cause of the left-wing globalist elites, and is then used to substantiate their argument that personal freedoms need to be removes so that they have "enough power" to stop the oncoming Climate Armageddon, then no, the data should not be trusted. Too many studies have recently been proven to have been entirely fabricated or heavily doctored to back up a political cause. We should not be sheep.
  - mikub 3y ago
    How many studys of this kind did you read yourself? How many of those studys you read, if you read some, you were able to understand? In my experience, people talking about not beeing sheep are the ones who get their "information" from some obscure youtube channel that tells them to not be a sheep.
    - surume 3y ago
      No. Please read for yourself. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090528203745.htm#:~:text=On%20average%2C%20across%20the%20surveys,one's%20own%20previous%20research%22%20and%20%22 https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090528203745.h... https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02035-2 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02035-2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis#:~:text=The%20replication%20crisis%20(also%20called,difficult%20or%20impossible%20to%20reproduce https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis#:~:text=The.... We have a crisis in science where the data for too many studies has been doctored. So we must trust in common sense, defend personal freedoms, and reject globalist elitist agendas that promise us easy solutions and impossible utopias.

by surume 3y ago

sebmellen 3y ago

If the data has been doctored, it's in the opposite direction. You are completely misguided if you think the majority of wealthy "elites" are making any serious efforts to address climate crises. https://www.climateofdenial.org/track-climate-change-denial/heritage-foundation/ https://www.climateofdenial.org/track-climate-change-denial/...

surume 3y ago
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- enraged_camel 3y ago
  Project Veritas? You can’t be serious.
  - surume 3y ago
    Verified and certified video of CNN executives discussing their plans - why not be serious? CNN never even denied it. Those are their employees. Do you have any proof that this isn't legit?
AnimalMuppet 3y ago
The claim wasn't that the elite are making a serious effort to address the climate issue. The claim was that the elite are making a serious effort to use the fear of the climate crisis to push everyone else to give up freedom and give the elites more control. Mind you, I'm not saying I agree with the claim. But before you dismiss it as baloney, at least be sure you know what is actually being claimed.

phaker 3y ago

With this attitude you'll see conspiracies everywhere, and that's a self reinforcing spiral. If this is how much evidence you need to dismiss something without checking, then you'll dismiss everything and you'll never find out if/when the hunch was wrong.

surume 3y ago
My attitude is scientifically based. When you see data that is "too good to be true" for a certain political side, you should assume that it likely is. If this "completely vindicates" the drive and cause of the left-wing globalist elites, and is then used to substantiate their argument that personal freedoms need to be removes so that they have "enough power" to stop the oncoming Climate Armageddon, then no, the data should not be trusted. Too many studies have recently been proven to have been entirely fabricated or heavily doctored to back up a political cause. We should not be sheep.
- mikub 3y ago
  How many studys of this kind did you read yourself? How many of those studys you read, if you read some, you were able to understand? In my experience, people talking about not beeing sheep are the ones who get their "information" from some obscure youtube channel that tells them to not be a sheep.
  - surume 3y ago
    No. Please read for yourself. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090528203745.htm#:~:text=On%20average%2C%20across%20the%20surveys,one's%20own%20previous%20research%22%20and%20%22 https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090528203745.h... https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02035-2 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02035-2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis#:~:text=The%20replication%20crisis%20(also%20called,difficult%20or%20impossible%20to%20reproduce https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis#:~:text=The.... We have a crisis in science where the data for too many studies has been doctored. So we must trust in common sense, defend personal freedoms, and reject globalist elitist agendas that promise us easy solutions and impossible utopias.